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help dont know the size of my small block ford

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ratrods_by_troy, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. ratrods_by_troy
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    The cast is 040E-6015-BA I just pulled it of a 1963 ford fairlane 500. and need to know what size please help.
     
  2. plodge55aqua
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    If its a V8 , It should be a 260.
     
  3. ratrods_by_troy
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    or it might be C40E-6015-BA
     
  4. skipperman
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    C4 is 1964 in Ford language ... and the 260 was the small V8 in that year.....

    ...... jersey Skip
     
  5. George
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    C40E-B is listed as a "high performance" (K code?) 289. C4 is 1964
     
  6. ratrods_by_troy
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    this motor isnt stock it has 4 pullys and only runs a alturnator and the water pump. i hope its a 302/. lol
     
  7. ratrods_by_troy
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    it has a 5 bolt bellhouseing?
     
  8. George
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    5 bolt up through '64. A K code 289 is a lot more valuable than any run of the mill 302.
     
  9. Spyder
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    If it has has a 5 bolt bell housing, it's not a 302 block.
     
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    If it's a K code you might find the original VIN stamped on it, possibly on the bell mount surface.
     
  12. George
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    K code was the VIN letter for the highly desirable 271 HP 289.
     
  13. raceron1120
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    If the casting starts C4OE (C4 = 64) it's not a 302 - they raplaced the 289s in '67/'68.

    A K-code 289 is a highperformance 289, mucho $$$. You've likely got a 260, or maybe a 289.
     
  14. Drive Em
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    K code was Mustang only, I have seen Comets with the "K" and they were regular 289's.
     
  15. George
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    Has beefier mains, bigger harmonic balancer, nodular iron crank, bigger valves. Used in Shelbys, Mustang GT
     
  16. havi
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    Just for kicks, what color are the valve covers?

    BTW, K code Fairlanes had HiPo's, and 3 row radiators.
     
  17. ratrods_by_troy
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    do i have somthing i need to keep or what and if it is a 260 like plodge55aqua said every custom part i find is ford a 289 or 302 like valve covers and intakes i have 3 two barrel carbs i wanna run I thought about making a custom plate so it will just be a single 2 barrel but look like a six pack? <SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4135892", true); </SCRIPT>
     
  18. George
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    Same year? say 65? OEM engine, or was it changed?
     
  19. George
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    All stuff basicly interchanges between the 260,289,302. If it is a 289 HP it's worth money to Mustang restorers.
     
  20. ratrods_by_troy
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    holley chrome valve covers
     
  21. George
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    a '64 260 would be of interest to someone restoring the early, so called '641/2 Mustang.
     
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  23. havi
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    Look at the numbers in the corners of the heads on top. Look for numbers like 19, 20, 21. Secondly look at the spacing of bolt of the upper half of the motor mounts. Either 6" or 7". Thirdly, if they are 7" and you don't have plans to use them, I'll gladly buy the whole motor mount ***embly. :)
     
  24. ROCKET88COUPE
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    5 bolt bell housing --221-260 anymore holes and its 289-302
     
  25. George
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    '63 & 64 289s have 5 bolt bells.
     
  26. George
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    Pull valve covers & see what numbers are there.
     
  27. George
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    C40E-B is a '64 High Performace 289 block, as said earlier.
     
  28. T-Time
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    He said its a C4OE-BA. I think he's still misreading it. There is no such block number for a SBF, as far as I have seen and as far as I can find.

    By the way, according to one source, the C4OE-B block can either be a 260 or a 289 HP. Don't know if that's right or not. (The 260 will have a 3.80 bore size, and the 289 HiPo will have a 4.0. The 289 HiPo has the big, heavy-duty main caps.)

    EDIT: Yet another fairly reliable source (MustangTek) states that they have confirmed that the C4OE-B block was also used for the standard 289.
     
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  29. Spyder
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    To each his own, but if it turns out to be a K code motor and you put a fake tripower on it, that would be just Wrong. Bad mojo.
     
  30. havi
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    The best iron content blocks were set aside to make the HiPos, thus the C4OE-6015- would be the same casting...before machining. For 289's that is. About 1200-1300 in existence for 1963. (all models)
     

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