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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by gemnewt, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. gemnewt
    Joined: Jun 7, 2008
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    Hi Everyone

    Has anyone ever purchased a car or truck From annother state (Colorado) on a ''Noterized Bill of Sale'', without a Clear ***le, and tried to get a California ***le and Registration. This is the only thing holding me up from purchasing the vehicle. The seller has been nice enough to hold on to the Vehicle for me, for the past 14 months. I sure need your help !!!
    Thanks in Advance
    Gene
     
  2. slddnmatt
    Joined: Mar 30, 2006
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    go thru a registration service. i use these guys. DMV just ****s.. even when you HAVE all the correct paperwork.

    http://www.cars***le.com/
     
  3. Von Rigg Fink
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    why did you wait 14 months to look into this?:confused:
     
  4. gemnewt
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    I had to deal with the loss of my mother and my brother so I didn't feel to much like dealing with car business.The man with the car understood.
     
  5. patrick66
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    Colorado is a ***le State. You are going to have a hell of a time getting that registered and ***led in California with just a BOS, notarized or not. You need to have the guy in Colorado get the ***le work straightened out in Colorado first.

    Are you saying the car does have a ***le, but it's not correct???
     
  6. gemnewt
    Joined: Jun 7, 2008
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    Hi
    There is no ***le, So it seems your telling me i'm SOL.
     
  7. poofus1929
    Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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    from So Cal

    The guy who owns the car is gonna have to get a Colorado ***le for it first. Then you can bring it here then transfer it to a California ***le.
     
  8. gemnewt
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    You see one day the seller drove to his local car crusher and saw this car being loaded into the crusher, the seller asked if he could purchase the car for the s**** value, so now the seller is the new proud owner.
    The seller happened to see an AD that I listed on the VCCA and contacted me, which brings us up to the present.
    gene
     
  9. Spyder
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    Is there no bonded ***le process is CA? I think most States have one?
     
  10. slddnmatt
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    you dont need a ***le. if the vin is clean and verified you ll be fine. DMV is just stupid.
     
  11. 39wagon
    Joined: Dec 13, 2008
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    I just got done going thru this same deal. Get a ***le and BOS from one of the speciality companies back east (they often buy up the old ***les from old junk yards) and then contact one of the registration services who also specialize in this kind of transaction. I looked at some of the old threads here and ended up using Tony's Vehicle Registration Service ( 3301 S. Peck Rd, Monorvia Ca). They knew what they were doing and quickly transferred ***le to my name and got me plates. Might give them a try.
     
  12. gemnewt
    Joined: Jun 7, 2008
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    Thank you so much for the information about Tony's Vehicle Registration Service, I'll give them a try, you all have given me good information and I
    thank you, I'm sure I'll get a ***le now.
    gene
     
  13. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    If you go after it you might want to check into getting a Colorado ***le and tags in your name while you are there. Then your story to the people in Cal is that you bought it in Colorado and had to get it in your name to get tags to drive it back. That doesn't mean that it was drivable at the time.

    Check into a "salvage ***le, this is probably the way you will have to go.
    http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellit...goBlobs&blobwhere=1191399229937&ssbinary=true

    It still doesn't say if an out of state buyer can ***le a car in Colorado.
    You might feel like a Circus dog jumping through flaming hoops before you have this one done.

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    Last edited: Jul 18, 2009
  14. Go to the DMV and tell the drone behind the counter that you have a car that you have owned, in your name, since high school or whatever and you want to register it. Tell them that you put the paperwork and plates in an envelope for safe keeping many years ago, but now you can't find the envelope. The car will not be in the computer since it is from out of state. Tell them it has been sitting on your property or your folks and has not moved for 20 years. They will give you a few forms to fill out and you will have to have the VIN verified. They should be able to do it if you trailer it in, or you can have a LEO do it. I have lived in CA all of my life and have done this many times. The last time I did it I was in and out in a few hours with a temporary ***le and a license plate in my hand. Just don't volunteer any information. Only tell them what you want them to hear.
     
  15. Johnny1290
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    Good advice!!! They are NOT on your side!!
     
  16. Von Rigg Fink
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    Sorry to hear of your loss, I couldnt imagine dealing with cars either after losing family. ..Apoligies if i came off to harsh
     
  17. 52style
    Joined: Mar 22, 2009
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    tell the dmv you had the ***le in your posession but lost it in a fire and you dont remember the name of the guy you bought it off of fill out a dmv form called statment of facts stating that the above said is true go to an insurance company (not all will do this youll have to shop around) buy a insurance bond (clears the dmv from liability )
    and they will issue a ***le im from san diego and have done this several times works like a charm

    ps ussally the insurance companies that pop up next to the dmv,s will help with this

    always act like the car is junk and dont run and insist that the car is only worth a couple hundered bucks that way the bond will be way cheaper it goes by the value of the car
     
  18. gemnewt
    Joined: Jun 7, 2008
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    Hello 39 Wagon:confused:

    I found Tony's Vheicle Registration Service, and I read the comment that you see below regarding a 69 Nova, What I found disturbing is, He states the car must be complete and running, the car I plan to purchase will be awhile before It's complete and running, and what happens if I put all this time and money into It and can't get a ***le & Registration? am I, S.O.L


    ''I am going through the same thing with my 69 Nova. This car has been a race car all of its life and has never been licensed except when it was new. The car is from Colorado and their records fall off after 15-20 years. I went to the Calif. DMV to see what I needed to do and they said since I have no previous registrations etc, that I would need to have the VIN verified by Police, and that I would need to post a bond in order to get a new ***le''.

    He states you can get bonds through various insurance companies and it is based on a percentage of the cars worth. The insurance company he talked to said they could do it for about $100 as they rate the value low. he stated they were street rodders with a 40 Ford.so they understood, he was told by the insurance company the car must be complete and running for Calif. to issue a ***le.

    There you have It, any comments, this situation just seems to get worse.
    Gene
     
  19. gemnewt
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    Hi, slddnmatt
    I sent an email to the website you mentioned http://www.cars***le.com/, I basiclly asked how much for his service, and would it be guaranteed after everything was said and done, would i have a ***le and new plates, I'm tyrying just about everything that was suggested to me by the members. I'll let everyone know what happens.
    Gene
     
  20. Retro Jim
    Joined: May 27, 2007
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    Well I have to say that you guys are lucky ! Sounds to damn easy to me .
    Here in my state of Pa. you will go through more BS than you can imagine ! They are a real pain in the *** over no ***les , but most states don't have any ***les before 1972 !
    I have a 37 Plymouth pick-up with a bill of sale . I will have to build mine and take to a "Special Enhanced Inspector " to go over it with a fine toothed comb . If we are lucky to get it to p*** the state of Pa. will issue a Street Rod tag and I will have to get inspected every year .
    I would never use the DMV in any state unless I had to ! That is the last place I would go for anything !

    Good Luck with your car ! Any Pictures !!!!!!!
     
  21. mj40's
    Joined: Dec 11, 2008
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    Which means by state law the ***le should have been turned over to the state of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:pColorado</st1:State> and marked and purged from their system. Crushers are required to obtain a ***le on complete cars before accepting them. By right means the crusher was going against the law by selling it in the first place even as s**** value. In most states it is against the law to sell a car without a ***le. I won't buy a car any more with out a ***le. Good Luck on this one in CA.

     
  22. mj40's
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    If the Bill of Sale is from Colorado, they will have a record of the VIN numbers in file. CA will be checking that and find that the car was tagged for crushing. Hence, the ***le is not clean!


     
  23. Just do as I said in my first post. You don't need to use a ***le service, especially one located in CA. They will simply do what you can do yourself for free
     
  24. DE SOTO
    Joined: Jan 20, 2006
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    Getting that car registered in California is easier than Catching VD from a Hollywood ****** !

    Get a Registration Service to help you or just go in & claim Lost ***le.
     
  25. titanmike
    Joined: Jul 16, 2009
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    from Covina, Ca

    Have the guy fill a lost paperwork sheet and take it to the DMV with the bill of sale. its as easy as that.
     
  26. 39wagon
    Joined: Dec 13, 2008
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    Gemnewt,

    Check your private messages.
     
  27. DE SOTO
    Joined: Jan 20, 2006
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    When you do this.... You do NOT want ANY out of state Paper work Unless its a ***LE !!!

    California DMV will drag you thru the Mill if they know this car is from Another state.

    Your are better off with NO paper work than UNFINISHED out of stste paper work.

    Been there done that .......
     
  28. Ghost28
    Joined: Nov 23, 2008
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    In colorado if the serial number is still on the car. He can take those numbers to the motor vehicle on pierce street, and run the numbers for about ten bucks, to find out who the previous owner was. And if it all checks out maybe get a ***le this way. at least if it has been registered recently or not. But it has to be a colorado car otherwise it gets crazy. And you might have to pay for his time cause those people don't do anything fast...John
     
  29. Man, I've seen these threads so many times even I know how to get a Cali ***le - has to be bonded and CHP does a serial number inspection. Not hard if you get the right people to help, but like everythig else it can depend on the DMV office, who's on that day, and what time of the month it is (even for the guys) as to what service you get.


    The states do not talk to each other much, even if the serial is flagged as s****ped in Colorado, California's system may never know. And if you claim the car was never in Colorado to the CA DMV people, the conflict could be explained as maybe a typo or number transposal on a salvage operator's part in CO.

    I'd be more worried about having a car running the same serial as another one elsewhere. That's another reason you don't run with a ***le that's not for your car. With NY registrations especially you have to be careful, because until about 20 years ago you got a new one every year when you renewed it. So there could be 20, 30, 40 registrations existing for the same car and serial number.


    New York has a form you can provide in lieu of a ***le on a s**** car, you just sign when you turn it over to the junkyard stating it's not stolen or whatever. At least there someone got smart and realized ***les get lost and cars still have to be s****ped. I wouldn't be surprised if other states have some kind of deal like that. So there may not have been a ***le in years (I presume this is an old car).
     
  30. Listen to this guy also. It doesn't matter what they do in CO, NJ, SD or BFE. Each state is different. California is easy. Do not take ANY paperwork into the office. Remember, you lost it all in that tragic earthquake.
     

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