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Help ID Transmission on 1904 Drill Press!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Elrod, Aug 3, 2008.

  1. Elrod
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    Hey all. Wanted to share some pictures of this cool drill press I picked up this weekend for next to nothing. I know very little about it other than it says "Champion Blower and Forge Company" on the side. It was made in PA (city is ground off) The patent number has been groun off as well, but there is a date of "1904" on it. Model number is "203 1/2"


    Anyways, the story is that the guy who owned it put an old transmission on it because he couldn't get it to drill slow enough for him. The owner thought it was an early Ford transmission (that's why I went to look at it), but it ain't no Model A or early V8 unit. I still thought it was cool though and brought it home!


    Any ideas what the trans is out of? Numbers on it are 10-23-14 and "328650"


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  2. treb11
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    based on the mounting flanges on the case, I'd bet it's off of a tractor
     
  3. Rusty Junk Ranch
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    That's a GREAT piece of old equipment!!!:D
     
  4. chaddilac
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    Wow that is so cool!!! Looks like a cool piece of artwork to me!
     
  5. lostn51
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    shoot, i would fix the wiring and start using it! that is one hell of a conversation piece thats for sure!
     
  6. budd
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    looks like it could be an auxiliary transmission of some type, like a 5 and 4 or a 4 and 4, just for fun, heres a pic of an old lathe in my shop with a truck trans attached.
     

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  7. Max Gearhead
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    from Wisconsin

    Cool items!

    Max
     
  8. Rusty
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    That is too cool !! You got married yet? Still waiting on my invitation
     
  9. Elrod
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    Hey! Very cool. Almost the same idea with the shifter arm heated and bent down for operator use. My trans is a 3 speed and reverse. Truck or tractor seem to be the most obvious candidates. I have been wondering if the number on the side is a date code, 1914, but I don't think they had transmissions that looked like this in the teens. Looks more like a 30s transmission to me.

    Any others have an idea?




    Not married yet. Just moved into a new awesome house and have been super busy. We are buckling down now with wedding plans. The invites are being printed now and should go out soon!
     
  10. titus
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    i have a lathe with a model A trans on it, it works good.

    JEFF
     
  11. Elrod
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    That's cool! I actually answered the ad on this 'cause he thought this was a Model A trans. I thought it would make a good conversation piece. Well, it turned out that the Drill was very cool that it didn't matter that it wasn't an A gear box. I may have to "upgrade" to the A box in the future! :)


    Have any pictures of your lathe?
     
  12. ronohlenkamp
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    Hey! That's a 1926 Chevrolet p***enger car trans. I got one in my boat just like it. With a custom mounting bracket, it bolts right up to a 283.
    Cool press, I'll try and send a chematic along with this message.
     

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  13. Originally most of those types of machinery were rigged to run off a single cylinder steam or make-and-break type engine that ran driveshafts overhead with leather belts running down to each piece of equipment in the shop . I'm sure your drill originally was too hence the need to slow it down when the electric motor was installed .
     
  14. Rooster
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    You guys are givin me ideas... A friend's lookin to sell a drill press very similar. It was never converted to electric and the price seemed steep till s**** went so high. Guess $100 wouldn't be too bad these days but I hear from soma the older guys that it should still be halfa that w/no motor.
     
  15. scootermcrad
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    I REEEEEALY REEEEALY like that!!!!! :eek::eek::eek: That is some serious tool **** right there!!! Can I have that???? please?
     
  16. lostforawhile
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    Ok i have to get pictures of the 1916 colburn dual head boring machine i use at work. dam i could start a post. one head is spare parts for the other, but one works great. it ran off of the overhead belt and is converted to electric now. still has the big leather belts and flywheels on it. just the main is now run off of an electric motor. this is one you don't turn on and off, you engage and disengage the belt. it's a big *******. and it's loud as hell when it starts boring. not terrible at idle,but under load,you need ear muffs and ear plugs,
     
  17. The37Kid
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    Welcome to the HAMB! I thought that might be a Chevy piece based on that parking brake ring around the shifter neck, thanks for posting the illustration.
     
  18. Elrod
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    HEY! Very cool! I knew the HAMB would come through! I wonder if the Chevy transmissions were the same in 1923 as they were in 1926. If so, that would lead me to believe that the "10-23" number on the side would be October 1923.


    I pressure washed this thing a week or so ago and I guess the motor wasn't quite dry enough when I tried it out again. It was popping the circuit breaker. Well, now it's dry and does work, but I notice that it's running backwards now. (3 speeds reverse and one speed forward) I might have changed the polarity of the motor when it was shorting out with the water. Now I have to figure out how to make it go forward again without turning the gears around in the transmission! :D
     
  19. Obsa
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    The place that I used to work at (before I got hurt on the Job, and they threw me away like yesterdays trash) had several small presses that used simular gearboxes to change ram speeds.
     
  20. boldventure
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    Thats cool!
    Artys photo it!
    Looks like it might actually work. Had one similar once couldn't make it work well, mine only had flat belts and slipped too much to do any real work.
     
  21. boldventure
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    Fiddled them a bit, that's sorta what I meant:p
    Now they artsy :)
     

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