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T-5 Tranny Questions

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by OldCarPilot, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. OldCarPilot
    Joined: Apr 1, 2003
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    from Bel Air MD

    Gunna do a 5 speed in a 53 AD truck. It will be behind a mildly hopped up 305. I know I need a world cl***, but does it really matter if its a "chevy" or "ford" one. i.e. does the chevy bell housing bolt on to either ******?
    Also does anyone know the measurements from the front of the ****** to the shifter for both?

    Thanks.
     
  2. mosimpson
    Joined: May 29, 2006
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    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=300 align=center bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD cl***=articletext height=96>Tremec T5 (5 speed)
    [​IMG]V8 T5's can handle roughly 300 lb.ft. Good for small block Fords, less than 351 cid displacement, street driven. </TD></TR><TR><TD cl***=articletext>
    [​IMG] </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dimensions
    A=19.5"
    B=7.2"
    C=14.5"
    D=24.7"
    Weight
    75lbs
    T5 Rebuild Manual - PDF 4.11MB
    To save the manual on your hard drive, right click mouse and select "save target as", then choose the directory to save to.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=300 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD cl***=captions colSpan=6>Gear Ratios</TD></TR><TR><TD width=34>
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]5[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Reverse[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]3.35 or 2.95[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1.94[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1.34[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1.00[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]0.63[/SIZE][/FONT]​
    </TD><TD width=55>
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]2.76[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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  3. 53sled
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    only with an adapter. there are two different cases, and newer s10s (2.2L) actually used a ford pattern iirc. There is a nice write up on inliners.org about a wc camaro t5/s10 tailhousing swap.
     
  4. adventurer
    Joined: Aug 1, 2006
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    Bolt pattern on Ford T5 is completely different from GM T5.
     
  5. onlychevrolets
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    why do you need a world cl***? you going to beat on it? if so then I agree
     
  6. todd_a
    Joined: Apr 18, 2009
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    from Tyler, TX

    Is that true? I was thinking the front of the ****** was the same and the bell housing that bolts to the ****** was the place where things were different. I know the tail shaft is different and the location of the shiifter was available in 3 different locations on T5 transmissions. Probably is different as the chevy T5 has a different shifter location than the ford version, so the case is probably totally different.

    Too bad.. I know the ford version inside out! I've rebuild a bunch of them.
     
  7. OldCarPilot
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    Are they hard to rebuild? Never done a manual ******. Built a few engines.
     
  8. onlychevrolets
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    they are not hard to build, my T-5 screamed in every gear but 4th so I tore it down, it needed a counter shaft and I replaced all the bearings , I think total cost was $220.00 for everything, and it works perfectly my nail head loves the overdrive
     
  9. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Check the tech link in my sig. Easiest way to do this behind a 305 is a bellhousing for any old SBC 4-spd & a T5 from a V8 Camaro or Firebird.

    But there's more than one way to skin this cat...
     
  10. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    Here's a list of T5 factory applications:

    The T5 Page
     
  11. OldCarPilot
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    Thanks for the good info guys!
     
  12. Flat Ernie
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    That's a pretty incomplete list, but it's reasonably accurate for what it does list.
     
  13. HighlyFavored
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    G-Force Transmissions are very popular in the mustang drag racing world. They can handle various levels of power based on your needs, and I'm sure they could tailor a bellhousing to your motor. They specialize in bulletproofing T-5's. http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/
     
  14. OldCarPilot
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    Is a WC ****** that was behind a v6 car going to hold up the same as a WC that was made for a v8? Are there differences in WC t5s? (besides gear ratio)
     
  15. blown green t
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    Do a search on the HAMB. There is a thread on here that has more info than you can imagine. I'll post a link later if I find it.
     
  16. OldCarPilot
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    I searched a bunch before posting and read most all that I found, flat ernie's page is the best so far. I was just hoping someone would have a quick answer on the v6/v8 thing.
     
  17. johnboy13
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    My father in law has a Non W/C from a 4 cyl (I think it was a 2.5L) behind a mostly stock 305. So far it hasn't blown up, but he treats it pretty good. He does get on it every now and then. It's probably only a matter of time before it's done.
     
  18. 73RR
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  19. blown green t
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    TECH: Ultimate T-5 Article
    The thread I was talking about was Flat Ernie. If I remember correctly, the 4.3 v-6 and the v-8 use the same bell housing. I think most of the info you need is in his thread.
     
  20. Flat Ernie
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    It depends. The gear ratio plays a part in the strength. In general, all else being equal, a high 1st gear ratio (lower numerically) is stronger than a lower 1st gear ratio.

    But you won't find ratings for each and every T5 anyway...
     
  21. bobscogin
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    Ratio differences not withstanding, the difference in the WC and non-WC is in the bearings and synchros, which are the same on the WC version of V6 and V8.

    Bob
     

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