Register now to get rid of these ads!

HELP Please - new motor - water in oil???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chopt49, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. chopt49
    Joined: Jul 5, 2006
    Posts: 949

    chopt49
    Member

    Hay there guys and gals, need some help.

    Ran the motor (1972 Chevy 350) in the '49 for the first time today and after only one minute of her running I have white milky oil!!! The motor is a fresh rebuild with zero run time. Where should I look to find the problem, head gasket? intake? cracked block perhaps?

    I am not the one who built the motor and I have no contact with the guy who built it.

    Thanks for any advise/help you can give.

    I am so depressed now, all the wind has been taken from my sail...
     
  2. ELpolacko
    Joined: Jun 10, 2001
    Posts: 4,682

    ELpolacko
    Member

    Do you have, or have access to a coolant pressure tester?

    If so, use it to pressurize the coolant system and watch the gauge. If it's steady. You may have just had some condensation from sitting. If it drops then you have a problem.
     
  3. BigChief
    Joined: Jan 14, 2003
    Posts: 2,084

    BigChief
    Member

    I agree with Elpolacko....if it pressure checks OK then you should be breaking in the cam. By the time you get the cam broke in any condensation will be boiled off. Another easy one to check on a fresh build is for the proper type/adequate amount of sealant on the cylinder head bolt threads.
     
  4. Drain the oil, and change the oil and oil filter. Start er up again, to see if it was not just condensation. If it is the milky oil problem again, then you know that there is interchange of enginely fluids. Maybe then add some block sealer to the radiator. Man, it could be a few things causing this. I once had a leaky intake manifold gasket cause this problems....
     
  5. bigEkustoms
    Joined: Jan 21, 2009
    Posts: 105

    bigEkustoms
    Member

    I would drain the oil, and the afc. recheck the head bolts. torque them in the correct sequence. the antifreeze is a killer to the bearings in a motor. I would also check the plugs before you go any further. Don't run the engine until you get the old oil out.
     
  6. chopt49
    Joined: Jul 5, 2006
    Posts: 949

    chopt49
    Member

    No antifreeze in the system yet. Pure water for start-up and leak tests.

    Off to buy a coolant pressure tester.

    Thanks guys.

    I will report back.
     
  7. ELpolacko
    Joined: Jun 10, 2001
    Posts: 4,682

    ELpolacko
    Member

    Just rent one from Autozone. Or not, they are handy tools to have.
     
  8. corndog
    Joined: Nov 27, 2007
    Posts: 4,847

    corndog
    Member
    from Indiana

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but in my 30+ years of building engines, I have never seen condensation provide enough moisture to turn the oil white. I will bet money he has an engine that has an internal colant leak...and it probably will not be easy to find. Sorry to hear about your engine woes. I can relate....bummer!
     
  9. Old F.A.R.T.
    Joined: Apr 13, 2007
    Posts: 292

    Old F.A.R.T.
    Member

    I tend to agree more with Corndog...I once had an engine that was rebuilt by professional builder who sleeved a cylinder and the sleeve did not seal...GOOD LUCK!!!
     
  10. carcrazyjohn
    Joined: Apr 16, 2008
    Posts: 4,841

    carcrazyjohn
    Member
    from trevose pa

    I disagee I had one motor Fresh rebuild Oil was milky white upon start up .That was 18 years ago.Still have motor and installing it no.3 car. I think mine was from when block was washed.I also drop a tube of that silver stopleak in every motor I rebuild.
     
  11. 29nash
    Joined: Nov 6, 2008
    Posts: 4,542

    29nash
    BANNED
    from colorado

    I agree. You can hope, but there's water getting in there, not condensation.
     
  12. thebigdaddyo
    Joined: Jan 12, 2009
    Posts: 551

    thebigdaddyo
    Member

    It would have to sit a long time with an oil cap off for it to have that much condensation. I have had motors sit for years with no water build up. Small block chevy right? re-torque your intake manifold bolts, or better yet, take it off and put new ones on. The front of the manifold is a water p***age and if it slipped when ***embled, can leak water under pressure. Also, check the torque on your head bolts, builder could have just snugged them up and not finished the job.
     
  13. Spity
    Joined: Dec 20, 2008
    Posts: 438

    Spity
    Member

    I use RTV for my intake manifolds, never had a problem with leaks. My guess without looking at it would be its probably the intake manifold leaking or your head bolts didn't get sealed properly. Which has been previously said x10.

    Its probably alot cheaper to check everything now, than to rebuild the motor again tomorrow. Also, if someone else built your motor call them first. They know where they cut corners better than anyone :rolleyes:.
     
  14. dorf
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
    Posts: 1,085

    dorf
    Member
    from ohio

    I bought a new crate motor from gm had 9 lbs of oil pressure,they said bad pump changed pump the same, installed high volume had correct oil pressure 4000 mile blew head gasket piece of **** gm said sorry not installed in original type vehicle no warrenty p***ed 1year
     
  15. 39 All Ford
    Joined: Sep 15, 2008
    Posts: 1,530

    39 All Ford
    Member
    from Benton AR

    I would change the intake gaskets before I settled on a blown head gasket, or cracked head or cylinder...
     
  16. Capt Crash
    Joined: Jan 21, 2008
    Posts: 108

    Capt Crash
    Member
    from Colorado

    It could also be the pre lube that the builder used on the bearings. If they used lubri-plate then that will turn the oil white pretty quickly.
    Brian
     
  17. moter
    Joined: Jul 9, 2008
    Posts: 1,131

    moter
    Member

    sounds like an intake gasket issue. Does it have a miss? Any smoke from the tail pipe?
     
  18. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
    Posts: 13,401

    Von Rigg Fink
    Member
    from Garage

    Head Bolts into water jacket..did you seal them before you installed the heads?..did you install the heads? if not check there 1st
    2nd check intake gaskets .

    and as advised..do a coolant leak test..I got a feeling this aint condensation unless you live in the swamp..or that engine has gone thru extreme temperature fluxuations alot lately

    Oh drain that oil and pull the filter..change em both please dont use a Fram

    breaking in a cam with contaminated oil is a gamble at best
     
  19. chopt49
    Joined: Jul 5, 2006
    Posts: 949

    chopt49
    Member

    First off I want to say thank you for all the replies, the HAMB rocks!!!

    Just bought a coolant pressure tester and tested - held at 15 psi and slowly came down a very, very, very small amount from 15 psi. Pumped to 25 and developed a leak on the lower rad hose.

    I am going to pull intake and reseal - check head bolt torque - I did not install the heads.

    Also will drain oil and replace filter. Hope for the best.

    ARG! One step forward 4 back!
     
  20. alex1954chevy
    Joined: Apr 13, 2008
    Posts: 256

    alex1954chevy
    Member

    hey man check the studs on the rocker arms too, i had a motor leak a CRAZY amount of water from there!!!
     
  21. Yeh, that is what I was trying to convey in my above post.
     
  22. moter
    Joined: Jul 9, 2008
    Posts: 1,131

    moter
    Member

    When you pull the intake look close at the sealing ports at the ends. Probably the gasket slipped or was over tightened and split the material. Good luck :)
     
  23. BigChief
    Joined: Jan 14, 2003
    Posts: 2,084

    BigChief
    Member

    ....another good point.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.