i miss the old days...barter, trade, hot rodders spirit....

I love trading too, but it gets tricky when you get screwed over by someone you thought you could trust, and you don't dare bring it up unless you want to get in a fist fight with them. I always do things with the intent that I'll get nothing other than a warm fuzzy feeling for doing it. If I get something more out of it Hooray for me!

 

You can put up a barter ad in the wanted section here.

 

I would have nothing if it were not for trading!this is the only way i get anything done anymore on all of my projects be it the house or the cars or my bikes.seriously because i have way more time than money!

 

Hey now goddammit!! I'm a machinist, and I'm only a picky and precise ******* when I'm at work. The rest of the time I'm just a regular *******!

You're right though, the shop I work at isn't much for trading work. But, I'm allowed to use it after hours, and I've done a lot of machine work for buddies in exchange for car parts and labor.

 

I have to follow the crowd on this one, I have traded for damn near everything on my truck, that I couldnt do myself. Having a wanted skill or talent helps. I trade tattoo work and pinstriping mostly but have traded parts and labor as well.

 

trading is still alive and well. just not with machine shops.

 

I love to barter and trade and do so all the time . I just did that for some speed parts for a Ford 302 I am building . Hotrod guys & gals will trade whenever possible because parts & labor cost $$$$$$$$$ and the times are tough .
I wish you lived closer to me , I am doing a rebuild on my 302 right now and would teach you . It's not hard , just remember where everything went and a set of hand tools . The machine work you can't do yourself without the machines ! Get a book on the engine you are building . They are $20 or less and will show you step by step on what to do . Remember to BAG & TAG everything !
Good luck and take your time .

 

What part of Okla are you located in?

 

Not knowing what part of oklahoma you are in, I can tell you a lot of traditional hot rodders from the Tulsa area frequent this board as well as another board called duckus ****us. May want to look there as well since I am pretty sure someone can help you out and then some.

 

well its a long distance between the two of you but my dad has a 65 nova ss he prostreeted and is not happy at all with the paint and body work...hes a motor guy and owns his own pretty big mechanic business...hes been looking the same as you to trade some work for some work...hes down in south texas though..im sure theres still more people out there just gotta keep looking

 

I'm not the oldest guy on this board (53yrs) but the "good old days when ***holes didn't exist" is a myth. It's no different now than it used to be. Actually, with boards like the HAMB and the internet in general; I think it's easier to get things done now.

 

I'm a Machinist *******.

 

Hey, Chrome Fins, can't barter,trade or whatever if we don't know where you are?

 

Ditto. I have been in this car deal for 25 years and have lots of friends who still barter/trade etc. I'm sure there are folks in your area that are plenty willing to do that. You just need to be able to find them. There are lots of Okies on here...

Jeff

 

just get the crank checked,turned rods resized and new pistons{if needed}machine work will be about $300.00.if you can take it apart you can put it backtogether!!!all you need is a torquewrench some ***embly lube and some time.its a good but scarry feeling when you first start it up{if something is wrong it will usually happen during breakin}i have seen people spend thousands of dollars to have a "engine builder"put there motor together and have it sieze up in minutes!!!also most machine shops will put together the long block for pretty cheap.

 

barter is alive and well in NC.... and on the HAMB...

 

The sad fact is barter doesent pay the bills. The last trade i made i traded a horse for a hay rake that needed repairs. Lopsided trade the horse was worth a lot more. But i was the one who initiated the trade. I repaired the hay rake. Then the neighbor who had loaned the hay rake to the guy that traded with me claimed the rake. He was unsuccessful because i was able to put a labor lein on the rake for my repairs. Result 3 guys that where friends and neighbors are mad at each other. The only barter i want to do anymore is trade cash for what i want and get cash for what someone wants from me. OldWolf

 

sorry guys, i tried to reply from my cell phone yesterday and it didnt work, sorry... i am from tulsa, and would gladly work a deal with someone if they are open to it. i thought Tulsa was in my profile, but i see now its not, ill change it.

brandon

 

i have been doing resto work for about 12 years now and have also done a ton of mechanical, i know i have the skills, but for some reason the long block is what scares me. probably bcse thats where all the critical stuff is, i dunno... im sure i could do it but i guess my mindset was that if a shop did it and messed up, they'd have to fix it, but i do know its all about paying attention to what i am doing. i have been checking prices for just the long block build with forged pistons, it woud run 1000$. the engine for my charger is a 74 model 360 dodge

 

Bartering is alive and well in the great white north
surely a machinist in your area would like some 'part time' work.
I'd put a call out for a machinist not a shop.

 

i think im gonna put it on craigslist and see who surfaces. if i dont find someone on here... strange. i dont know anyone on here any better than the fellow that might reply from craigslist, but id trust someone from hamb b4 id trust someone from craigslist, lol....

 

Man why are you looking to trade bodywork, unless you're a backyard hack like me, for a few hundred bucks worth of machine work?

Pro bodywork is worth a lot more. You can't trade some of that for folding money and pay for the machine work?

My experience with machine or engine shop warranties are there's a hundred loopholes they can use to deny a claim, and they probably will.

I've never done a lot of trading, I'm not against it, I just don't have the skills really that are good enough to trade and it seems like someone always walks away feeling like they got the short end of the stick in those kinds of deals. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, I hear.

I haven't built an engine, but would love to. My feeling is, the only way you learn to do something is by doing it, and I always give myself permission to blow something up or otherwise botch the job. I'm a perfectionist, and if I let that get the better of me I'll never try to do anything, cuz you gotta make mistakes along the way.

Good luck whatever you decide, the dodge sounds bad ***!

 

thats true. and you were asking why not get paid for the body work? well i do, my typical paint job, unless im doing it for a friend, will start out around 5k(for a scuff and shoot) and on up from there depending on what a fellow wants. i Do do show quality work. i am doing a mustang right now that will be a 14k paint job, but the money has, so far, gone to bills and etc. thats why i figured that this would be an enticing trade. i know i am offering to give more in the trade than i am getting, but then the person i was trading with would feel as if they had made out like a bandit, and i would have my engine.... i have been trying to squirrel away a payment from the mustang to use for the engine, but it hasnt happened yet....bills, bills, bills. not that im not greatful for the money, because it has come in handy when we would have otherwise been short on money, but maybe now that theres a "real" reason to rebuild it, that will become a possibility.

i suppose the reason i had shy'd away from doing it myslef was that i would only have the $ to do this once, and if i screwed soemthing up it'd be toast, but then again, if i toasted it, id be no worse off than i am right now without the engine rebuilt at all, i guess.

 

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I have quite a few FRIENDS that happen to be machinests.. or tool and die makers. they are not friends BECAUSE they are a machinest they are friends first machinest next...

anyway,,,,,

you know these machinest that only take cash???? you want a motor rebuilt...

ask them if they by chance already have a TON of motors already rebuilt and ready to go that guys had done and never paid for.

If they do much motor work i'll bet they have a few. they charge for the parts up front and they get the motor work done and put back together and then,, NOTHING,, the guy never showes up to pay the rest and they are stuck with a motor,

those same guys are probably trying like crazy to trade, barter, ect ......


no offence ment but if you came to my machine shop and said you wanted to trade a paint job for a motor rebuild, and I had never seen your work ect.......

I would "***ume" you were not very good at paint jobs. why?

you should be able to do a couple paint jobs for cash and just pay me instead of asking to trade.

at very least I would say,, OK,, my car is here, go ahead and paint it,,, when I see the finished product and it is perfect,, I will trade,,,

I ***ume that these "corporate" guys have a machine shop...... that means if they do the work there name is behind it...

do have a body shop???? if you do the work do you stand behind it with your very livley hood?

again all just questions, but there have been TONS of guys burned on deals like this,, they trade a engine rebuild for a paint job that falls off after a year and a half,

 

I had a friend that i helped him out too many times to count!I did everthing car related with this guy!And i asked him to do me a favor or sell me some stuff that he would never use and i never got anything in return so i told him to get bent after a 20 year friendship and met some other people and they are freinds of the H.A.M.B community and lets just say i'm better freinds with these guys than i ever was with him!Just to give you some insight, he was more of a muscle car than anything!

 

Brandon,
I know how you feel. There are a lot of jerks out there. I would ***ume you could find just about anything on here. So many people (and decent ones to boot). A bunch of knowledge on here.

One guy on this thread mentioned my site. www.Duckus****us.com Lots of Tulsa oriented people on there, but not even a drop in the bucket compared to here. Check it out if you like. It is a hot rod board in general even though we have some traditional guys on there.

I am out of Claremore, and would be happy to p*** on any contacts if you need them. PM me and we can chat.


Duckus****us

 

Do a resale-rebuild and see how ya like it. $78 at paw

Truthfully, you'll never know if a rebuilder puts in new pistons or just re-uses your old ones, or what the hell they do in your engine. I can only speak of the 4 shops that I have experience with but I wouldn't believe them if they told me what time it is. Anyplace I can afford I don't trust, unfortunately, and I especially wouldn't trust someone on craigslist(been burned too many times, met some great people too though)

Hey I'm off topic, you asked about bartering not engine building. If $78 is all you got then give it a try, you gotta R and R the engine anyhow if you had a pro rebuild, and if you're just doing rings, bearings, and gaskets, will that take longer than it would to do bodywork/sand a car?

OR, you could always try what the gypsy bodywork guys here in LA do, and just make a spiel to the owner of any car with body damage you come across.

Wish you were closer, I'd pay for some engine work over retail cost for bodywork any old day!!!

Good luck whatever you do man.


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This is a subject that has bothered me for years. When we were growing up in this sport everyone would help each other. Someone did body work, someone did electrical work, someone else engines or trans work. We all traded around and had a great time. As we all got older, the help seemed to fade. Some specialized in one field and began to charge for it, maybe setting up a side line business. Others decided their time was too valuable for others to use and just stopped, buying the help of pros instead. Many just don't want to ask for help, as they may have to help someone else down the road. I trade out or just give stuff to a couple of friends still, but most don't want to have the commitment to reciprocate. I hope it's just the older guys in our area, but I suspect it's a pattern we all see as we get older and time becomes a bigger issue. Some of this stuff is so expensive now that trading is hard, but I still believe that value for value is real regardless of the dollar numbers that a market ***igns to things, and that's how we all used to treat each other. Wish we still did.

 

You just need to have the right group of friends for bartering. My friends and I steal parts from each other all the time.

I'm doing a barter now for a friend that owns a wrecking yard. I post ads on Craigslist for him for three months and recieve a new tunnel ram, new Holley carbs and new Hilborn scoop that he got on trade.

Not so much car oriented but I'll do small construction or repair jobs on friends houses for cheap, or free if they help work and provide refreshments.

This has almost always paid off for me in the long run. My last 'bonus' was a 3 foot round porcelain Coca-Cola ****on sign from the 1950's a friend found at his mom's. He knew I liked junk and his mom was going to toss it.

 

You need to make more friends and need to get some skills or things people want/need.

I was seriously just thinking about this the other day, how many contacts I make for things through the hot rod community. I've also got a ton of contacts through my dad and my family.

I'm not that sociable of person but I've got some skills people appreciate and would like to call upon. I've gone into deals with people with the full intention of paying them and them saying things like, "I might need something welded", or "when I get my car done I want you to do a photo shoot of it."

Growing up my dad was always bartering, you need to have a bartering chip though.

Also you ever considered getting a part time job, working somewhere you would enjoy, somewhere that it could benefit you to have that in? I'm working on getting my foot in the door at a junkyard that's clearing out it's cl***ics for cash for clunkers storage. Thanks to another contact I made he vouched for me and it sounds like I got a good chance of getting in there.