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Likelihood of breaking a rocker arm spring on a fuel pump?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Midnight 50, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. Midnight 50
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    My '50 Poncho is all original with the straight 8 and mechanical fuel pump. For the last few days I have been killing batteries trying to get it started (normally starts fine). I noticed the carb is dry and there is nothing in line between the tank and pump (all hardline) so it's pretty much gotta be a pump (unless I have a leak in the line keeping it from ****ing up fuel).

    ***uming the mechanical fuel pump is at fault, is it most likely the rocker arm spring is broken or faulty in some way? Would there be a tell tale sign such as gas leak on the top of the pump (the air side - it is dual stage) or anything like that? I haven't faced this problem before. Thanks!
     
  2. RAY With
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    Remove the pump and take a look. It could be the pump valves-diaphram or yes its possible for the arm to break on the older cars. You can put it in a bench vise and if the arm is ok work the arm while holding your finger over the tank side port-It should have a suction. If not tear it down and have a look/
     
  3. Midnight 50
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    I'm overloaded on info about switching to an electric fuel pump (this car has to be moved in 2 days or else). I need to strap an electric fuel pump exactly where the mechanical one is right now on the side of the engine and go. Do I HAVE to run a return fuel line with certain pumps? What is a good PSI for this car? What's the easiest way to get a pump in and running so I can move the car and go back later to fix the details? I planned on removing the lines off the mechanical pump, sticking them on the electrical pump that is sitting piggy back against the mechanical pump so I can use the lines, and wiring the pump into the switch. I don't have a plate to remove the mechanical pump right now so I was just going to byp*** it. That return line thing is bothering me.
     
  4. lippy
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    If all you have to do is load it on a trailer, fill the carb bowl with gas thru the vent tube and fire it up, it won't run too long on it but maybe long enough to move it. Lippy
     
  5. Midnight 50
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    If I can just fix it I'd like to.
     
  6. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    You don't need a return line. You generally only run a return line with fuel injection and high fuel pressure. ***uming you have stock electric in the car, you need a 6 volt in-line fuel pump that you can plumb in with some regular rubber fuel line, barbs and hose clamps. You'll also need a fuel pressure regulator, which can be had inexpensively in the Spectre section of Pep Boys if you're in a pinch. You only need like 2.5 psi on those carbs. It's really not much. That could be a permanent fix or you can fix the mechanical fuel pump
     
  7. Midnight 50
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    Thank you. :) It's a 12 volt alternator system. I'll try to find a low pressure pump.
     

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  8. RAY With
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    just about any parts house has the round inline pump and it will work just fine on your car-Mounting by your pump is ok also but if you want permant operation it needs to be closer to the tank
     
  9. shortbed65
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  10. Midnight 50
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    Thanks Ray, Short, and everyone :) I'm going to get by an auto store tomorrow and pick up a regulator and pump. How are these regulators adjusted? By gauge or by a visual setting on the unit?
     
  11. Midnight 50
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    Well for now I get to stay original with 60 yr old NOS for the whopping price of $37 shipped. I couldn't stand not to do it the right way.

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    The instructions however are proving difficult to read......LOL! They just crumbled to pieces.
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