Have my 39 wide five hubs mounted onto finned buick hubs, turned 58 Buick front backing plates to fit on ford spindles and banjo rear. Does anyone have any experience with this setup. tim
Hi Tim! Yes, you really should go do an intro ............... and then................. show some pics of your brake setup so far, as I am contemplating doing the same thing! Tim D.
Do an intro & post some pics - I'm not getting how the hub & drum are mounting together as the Buick drum tapers quite a bit...
Intro before someone lights ya' up with that FNG love! (I'm not kidding either) In the mean time, do they look like this?? I'm a wide-five freak! I want to see what you have going on... Link to intro page. Do this quick and then hurry and reply back! I'm getting anxious to see what's up!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18
SUPER spendy too, weren't they? I always wondered if there was really enough aluminum meat there to hold that brake drum on there good. Seems like it should get a few more attachment points than that...
Saw those on eBay a while back too. Didn't look sturdy & I wondered about concentricity (is that a word?)
I Put The Buick Drum In The Lathe And Scribed A Guide Line On The Raised Outer Ring On The Outside Of It That Was The Same Diameter As The Wide Five Hub. I Then Mounted The Hub To The Drum After Drilling The New Bolt Pattern. Just Pressed In New Wheel Studs. I Turned The Inside Hole On The 58 Buick Backing Plates To Register On The Ford Square Back Spindles. A Little Of The Spindle Needed To Be Milled Off At The Top To Let The Backing Plates Fit. Have'nt Got To The Brakes Shoes Yet But I Have A Roller. I Will Post Pictures And An Update Soon.
I have searched.. I am bringing up an oldie... anyone have any experience with the above brake set up.. how about something simular on the rear? thanks
I remember this thread and yet NO pictures of the setup or anyone elses. I'm still interested in seeing some...
Mine are not together yet, but here's pictures of what they look like. The old dirt guys say they worked great. Just seperate the stock wide five Ford hubs from the drums, drive or press in new studs from the back side of the Buick drums. Sounds easy enough... We will see. Kevin Ooltewah Speed Shop
OOPSIE... responded to a 7 year old post!!! Rarebike, if you are using Buick backing plates the drums have to go on the back side of the hubs, like you have done. Yes you have to bevel the top of the spindle to clear the backing plate wheel cylinder. If you true the ring on the Buick drum before you remove the hub it will index perfectly to the lip on the wide 5 hub. You may have to machine some of the water ring lip off the backing plate or the outer edge of the brake surface to cover any wiggle in the drum casting. Get some Dorman studs with a long shank and serations to join the hub and drum as a unit. Scooters method with the drum on the outside moves the wheel load to the little outside bearing which isnt designed to load carrying plus changes the track outward and the scrub angle.
I just finished mine a few months back, but my backing plates wont fit since I don't want to go buicks, so i'm gunna cut the center out of my backing plate and weld a cup in them to offset them further in... Anything can be done if you want to get it done!! I'll try to post some pics this weekend if I get my backing plates done
We ran those for many years on a frankland quickchange. They worked well. When rear disc brakes became the new trend. These were obsolete overnight.
I ran them on QC on dirt also, but with 3/4 ton hubs, both iron and later the Frankland ones in aluminum, but never tried them on the 1/2 ton/p***. car hubs. Anybody got any ideas on Buick drums on 9" Ford with the small axle bearings?
DOM, Doesn't Tony run the setup you're asking about? I know he has Buick drums on the rear, but can't remember what rear end he's running. I want to say 9 inch. And, if my memory serves me right, Bob Wilson turned something out for him to do it. I'd ***ume with you could duplicate it with your experience and tooling capabilities. Give Tony a holler. Joseph
Well, now you guys have got me wondering how my Model A would look with wide 5's with the full V8 hubcaps and Buick drums. One reason is that the frame for my teardrop has wide fives on it with those hubcaps now. That would make matching car and trailer when I was done.
I know Tony has Buick drums on the front, as do I also. My backing plates are '39 Lincoln Bendix style. I have a set of Bob Wison's finned aluminum backing plates for the front I will install later after the car is finished and being driven. Will wait to install during cold part of Winter when it's too cold to drive a roadster! For the back, Wilson has a setup for 9" Ford with big axle bearings, but mine is the small bearing type. Suspect using this rear will involve some welded up backing plates and who knows what else!
It would look great although I am partial to running without caps because I like the look of the wheel and hub. I am also casting adapter covers to go over a **** Spadaro type adapter. And in the design stages of a disc brake wide five hub to be a direct bolt on 37-48 spindles.
Yeah, I know...newguy. The 29 RPU I bought (unfinished) has wide fives on Ford round back spindles and the banjo rear. I am looking into using Buick drums with the wides but need more info. Anyone actually using this set up that can talk about how it works?
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