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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ltex old iron, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. ltex old iron
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    i work with an old man whos been a hot rodder for many of years, he tells me about a few of his cars he has and claims to have built 34 cars, when he talks it all sounds lik he knows what hes talking about and he knows his stuff but the other day he was talking to me about hudson cars that had hemis in them...i have never heard of that but maybe i just havent been around long enough...he says that they are way different than normal hemis and i would know if i saw one
    do any of you know about hudson cars coming stock with a hemi motor in it?
     
  2. patrick66
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    No stock Hemis, ever, in a Hudson.

    Only engines you will find in post-war cars are the flathead straight 8 (through '52), the 202, 212, 232, 262, and 308 flat straight Sixes, and in '55, '56, and '57, you can find a Packard V-8 or an AMC 327 V-8, along with the 308 and 202, depending on the car.

    NO HEMIS IN HUDSONS from the factory. Ever!
     
  3. ltex old iron
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    ok thanks good to know
     
  4. James Maxwell
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    Bruce Crower did put a Hemi in one however! Complete with a top-mounted supercharger, which was a big big deal at the time.
     
  5. Patrick speaks the truth. Some of the guys the Hornets beat in NASCAR probably thought they had a Hemi, but no...never did.
     
  6. ltex old iron
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    ok well thanks for the confirmation guys, i knew it sounded wierd but the guy talking about it really knows alot of stuff, and ive heard alot about his experience but he claims that hudson had a factory hemi, i guess hes a little off
     
  7. krooser
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    About ten years ago there was a lot of activity in the service dept. of the Ford store i worked at... one of the parts guy came and got me and told me Ken Miles was in the service dept. and he was signing autographs.

    THE Ken Miles?.... Yep, I was told. Funny... since he died testing a Shelby Cobra Daytona in '67 (?).

    I went to see this guy and told him he had been dead over 30 years... he kinda mumbled something about me being a real ***hole and he left....
     
  8. panic
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    When I was a kid, there was always someone down at the Legion who captured Hitler (you know - the way Obama's uncle liberated Auschwitz?).
    The funny thing is that the same bullsh*t stories happen every generation - the longer ago it was, the more important the guy telling it was.
    Yes, there are people in France whose great-grandfather told them he "saved Napoleons' life", etc. - and if you point out that he'd have to have been born in 1800 or earlier - and be 209 years old today, they spit at you.
     
  9. hudsoncustom
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    Perhaps he got a little mixed up. Hudson's came with Hydro's...
     
  10. d2_willys
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    This might the one in the Engine swapping book #2. There is one in the book, along with the NIGHT TRAIN Hudson.
     
  11. non car people and even some car people think Hemi means Hi Performance (which I guess it does).

    I have heard about factory Dusters with 340 Hemis, Chargers with 440 Hemis, even a Chevelle with a 396 Hemi in it. I was asked once if the 360 in my Duster was a Hemi.

    Ma Mopar did a great job of Making Hemi a household word, but many people get the wrong end of the stick with it, and that's what I would ***ume happened with the "Hudson Hemi".
     
  12. d2_willys
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    Pretty hard not to distinguish a Hudson FLATHEAD from a CHRYSLER HEMI. As different as night and day.:eek:
     
  13. If you don't know engines, how would you know that a Hudson mill isn't a Hemi?

    Lack of knowledge or facts never got in the way of a good story . . .
     
  14. Arthur1958
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    I suspect he was thinking of DeSoto but said Hudson because both names are ***ociated with defunct car-makers. His comments would fit DeSoto, which did have hemis that were distinctly different from Chrysler hemis.
     
  15. revkev6
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    I was thinking the same thing right from the beginning of the post.
     
  16. EARLYHEMIBILL
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    Some guys see the spark plugs going into the middle of the heads and they think it's a hemi. Flatheads appear that way at times. Bill
     
  17. Now there were several "HUDSLER" conversions around the country. They were Hudsons with Chrysler Hemis installed in the engine bay. THAT could be what the guy was talking about. I knew of two of these in southern Calif. in the Hudson club out there. One was a Hornet coupe and the other a Hornet sedan.

    Just like any other brand of car, the Chrysler Hemi was going to get put in there with a shoe horn and a torch. Hudson was no exception.
     
  18. jimi'shemi291
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    I'm with ajMoPar & others here. The old guy probably knew what he MEANT, but he said the wrong MAKE name. That's pretty common with old folks.

    That said, Husdon engines were in a cl*** by themselves! Hooray for Hudson!
     
  19. BillBallingerSr
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    Hudson 308 rodded

    [​IMG]


    Chrylser early hemi dolled up

    [​IMG]
     
  20. jimi'shemi291
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    BillBallingerSr, I'll post osmething . . . ONCE I catch my breath! Whoa !!!

    (Show-off! LOL) Nice motors there!!!!!!!!!
     
  21. patrick66
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    True that, but the old dude was apparently talking about factory units coming out that way.
     
  22. junkyardjeff
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    I never seen a hemi in one but a old junkyard I used to frequent had one with a 303 or 324 olds,should of looked at it more closely but never paid much attention to it plus it had sat there many years with no hood.
     
  23. jimi'shemi291
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    Man, I ALWAYS feel bad when I see a hood OFF or LEFT UP. I wish guys would be considerate of the next guy(s) who find that car and NEED something. It doesn't take monay months to make a bunch of engine components hard to reconditon & use, once that rain & snow gets inside the motor.
     
  24. BallengerSR,

    Awsome engines,,really cool,,you do good work!

    Tommy
     
  25. BillBallingerSr
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    Sorry to dissappoint, but those two are web pictures I have. I can't take credit for those two, however I have done a 308 Hudson very similar with a header and three two barrels, and an early Hemi to very close to those levels of detail along with a 3 deuce 389 and others, but the pictures are good examples from other sources. I don't have pictures of my own work, but they are uncannily like the ones I did. The difference on the Hemi was there wasn't any billet stuff. The Hudson was from Uncommon Engineering a link : http://www.uncommonengineering.com

    The Hemi was from http://streetrodder.automotive.com/94420/0811sr-chrysler-331-hemi-engine/index.html


    That said though, I have done both to that level but those aren't my work/pictures. I should have tagged them, sorry. Thank you for the compliment, I wish I had pictures of my own work to share. I'll have my son dig around and see what he can find in our albums.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2009

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