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Hot Rods Strangest Homes for Early HEMIs ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jimi'shemi291, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. Gotgas
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    "For [experimental V-16 Chrysler Hemi] testing, a P-47 Thunderbolt was selected. Introduced in 1943, the P-47 was the largest and heaviest single seater in the Air Force inventory at the time. It was powered by a huge 2,800 cubic inch radial engine that developed 2,300 horsepower. It gave the 40 foot wing span plane a top speed of 439 miles an hour at 15,000 feet.
    Some modifications were necessary to accommodate the long V-16. When done, the slimmed down nose actually helped reduce the drag produced by the big round radial. Preliminary testing showed promise. Gingerly the big fighter was coaxed slowly into higher al***udes and higher speeds. Finally the go ahead was given for an all out test. At 15,000 feet, the huge plane, under the Chrysler V-16's power, broke the 500 mile an hour barrier. No one thought it was possible for a piston engine to achieve that speed in level flight.
    Thanks to accurate radar timing, it is beyond doubt how powerful that engine truly was. Flat out, it pulled the huge P-47 along at 504 miles an hour. Conventional wisdom at that time said that the V-16 was making at least 3,000 horsepower, and likely closer to 3,500!"


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  2. jimi'shemi291
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    RALF WROTE: Back on track: My dad has a 53 Studebaker with a 270 Dodge hemi....not odd except most wouldn't use a Dodge. ...and I have a 54 Willys wagon and a spare 315 Dodge laying in the garage:D.

    Well, Ralf, you probably already know I'm a DeSoto guy -- just in my blood . . . and I wanna be different. I remember seeing Hemis in early Lowey coupes, so I don't know anything wrong with that. (Tell ya a story osmetime, too.)

    There SURELY isn't anyting wrong with a 315 Dodge!!! So, don't press sauer kraut with it! LOL! Lee Petty, I think, would approve of that Dodge. As for Willys, I know where there's a decent '55-or-so wagon with good bumpers & ALL the 4WD undercarriage. Probably could be had for a song, or just a whistle. <!-- / message -->
     
  3. jimi'shemi291
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    GotGas is ALWAYS there when there's an interesting examination of a question (AND bringing in some RESEARCH, too!). Way to go, guy!
     
  4. jimi'shemi291
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    BTW, guys, I Am sorry this got so broad. But, it is interesting to know the first Hemi chamber goes back to 1906 (103 years ago!) . . .PLUS all the strange and COOL stuff Hemis have powered!

    So, WHERE does it end? Hemi-head STEAM cars after petroleum dries up?
     
  5. texkbc
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    Here is a brush cutter that my Grandad built about 50yrs ago
    It has the name "****** butcher" welded on the front
     

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  6. leon renaud
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    Scoop Mobile tractors had Chrysler hemis large Michigan or Hough type bucket loader machines.local paving company had one that later got sold to a local junk dealer it was running till just a few years ago but had so many different engines swapped in it I don't know what the origional engine was other than it was factory built with a hemi.the junk dealer had around 2 dozen hemis sitting in a shed and none were for sale each was planned as a replacement for the loader engines
     
  7. jimi'shemi291
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    TxKBC . . . "****** BUTCHER"??? I guess yer grandad didn't have much DOUBT that mak-chine w. Hemi cud Do DE JOB??????????????

    Chrysler? er sumpthin' else?
     
  8. jimi'shemi291
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    Leon, uh,uh,uh,uh .... TWO DOZEN HEMIS????????? Yike!
     
  9. texkbc
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    It has a 52 331 Chrysler
     
  10. skywolf
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    I know this isn't an early Hemi but the Mc Kee Can Am racer was the only car to appear in that series sporting a 426. It's surprising that Chrysler didn't pursue that avenue of motorsport since they were heavily involved in both drag racing and NASCAR at the time. Chevrolet engines, with a few exceptions, were pretty well the standard fare till Porsche hit the scene in Can Am. Check out this website for more info if you're interested.
    http://www.hemimckee.com/html/history.html

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  11. truckdude1
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  12. bluebolt
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    I saw a hemi powered forklift in Stockton CA about 20 years ago, was stopping by a home machine shop with some buddies, I think one guy was picking up a 440 crank. Lots of junk outside and a Model AA dually flatbed and also the hemi forklift whcih had chrome spark plug wire covers on it. Inside the shop it was spotless, crankgrinding machine and other machinery that had been rebuilt and was gorgeous. Old Vega funny car body haning from ceiling, 417 Top fuel hemi block and heads, Doug Nash dual quad Pontiac intake are some of the things I remember
     
  13. forddragracer
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    Gen. Chennault's original flying tigers used surplus p-40 warhawks...
     
  14. DELTUFFO
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  15. krooser
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    here's two...
     

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  16. jimi'shemi291
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    Krooser, a HEMI in a MET ?!?!?! Wow!

    And forddragracer, someone already claridied the errant P-40 Warhawk comment I made. But THANKS! (But the P-40 did use Hemi heads.)
     
  17. And I bet the 327 out of the Camaro went into an early Ford somewhere . . .

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    This pic kinda makes my skin crawl, can't put my finger on why.
     
  18. landseaandair
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    Has anyone seen this picture in ClayMart's antique engine show thread? IMG_9259sm.jpg
     
  19. D-fens
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    Guy I used to work for had several early Hemi's that he said came out of old Hyster (?) forklifts, the big ones like were used at railroad yards. Not sure whatever happened to them when he closed up shop.

    I think the Hemi-powered air raid sirens take the biscuit. There's a video on youtube of Garlits and some TV show host firing one up. Gar's grinning like a fool and when he engages the siren you can see people in the shop start looking for **** to hide under.
     
  20. krooser
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    I kinda like this car... can't quite put my finger on it though...
     
  21. Gotgas
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    Not surplus exactly, they were P-40B and C models which were frontline fighters in 1941/42.
     
  22. jimi'shemi291
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    OOPS! Hold the phone, guys! I have a CORRECTION!!!

    One of our group has, rightly, pointed out that I INCORRECTLY put early Hemis into the cars of Earl MUNTZ. WRONG! The Muntz cars ran on Lincoln & Caddy engines.

    Sorry, guys. I went back and checked my sources. I was thinking of the Edwards-America, a more-or-less contemporary of the MUNTZ. The Edwards protoype was, indeed, crafted around a Henry J ch***is & used a Ford engine. But when Edwards started his second unit, he found the "J" wouldn't hold up to the power of the 331 Hemi he wanted to use in this car. And, so, he switched to an Olds frame that COULD stand up to the Hemi.

    Let the record stand CORRECTED!!! We wouldn't want a strange new myth or urban legend start here & get accepted as fact by ANYBODY!!!!
     
  23. leon renaud
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    thats exactly how I felt when I saw them !A 1 car garage with hemis laid out in neat rows covering the entire floor!They pulled the hemi out of anything that came in with one,The funny thing is this was one of those yards that wouldn't save a damn thing no matter what it was.he sold out the yard to a big crusher place and Hemis building and all are gone!There's a set of scales where the barn was now don't know what was done with all the motors.
     
  24. jimi'shemi291
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    ****, Leon, I'm a DeSoto fanatic. And when I think: DeSoto made at least 320,000 HEMIs in '55 through '57, I have to think about how many just got pissed away like ANY other engine!

    Then you add Chrysler Firepowers & Dodge Rams to that, we have to be talking over a half-million to 3/4-million HEMIs. (Hell, there were ONLY 10,000 426 "street" Hemis!)

    SO, I have to believe there are STILL early HEMIs OUT THERE for us to sniff up, bros!!!! Let's keep at it!
     
  25. axeman39
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    Yup its me, that thread started with a Hemi fuel pump, I still haven't needed anything that has been offered up yet but I'm watching and waiting. I still have the 392 that came from the boat it's a 57 392 375 hp solid lifter motor with adjustable rockers and it originally had dual 4 barrels, I'm looking for the intake and carbs for it. As far as knowledge of boats your asking the wrong guy. but my Hemi spins the correct direction, or is that direct connection?
     
  26. truckdude1
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    It's those cheap chrome steel wheels with the holes, that always makes my skin crawl.
     
  27. hotrod mike
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    Someone had asked for a pic of Garlits' air raid siren. Here it is at Florida Billetproof this year. He cranked it up but not near as loud as he could have. I think he said, at full wail, it could be heard for 20 miles. Pretty amazing piece.
     

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  28. jimi'shemi291
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    GUYS! I have had more fun with all the INPUT on this thread than a puppy with two peters!

    We have heard a TON of stuff people, over the years, have stuffed the (then!) plentiful early Hemis into -- boats, irrigation pumps, tow motors/tugs, Hudsons, Don Garlits' air-raid siren, Henry Js (I think?), Edwards-America luxury sports cars, a saw mill or two, etc., etc.

    Not to sound like Joe Pesci here (Okay! Okay, to SOUND like joe Pesci here) in one of the LETHAL WEAPON movies . . .

    I FREAKIN' THINK IT'S TIME TO PUT IT TO A VOTE!!! (Ain't I democratic?)

    The oriignal question was what the STRANGEST thing you ever saw or heard of putting an early Hemi into. THINK about all the input fellow HAMBers have ocntributed, okay?

    Now, RULES FOR VOTING ARE SIMPLE & FEW:

    (1) We are ONLY talking about Chrysler, DeSoto & Dodge Hemis sold from 1951 through 1958. (Sorry, 426 Jensens do NOT qualify, you see?)

    (2) You can't bring anybody back from the dead. (Oh, wait, THAT was in a Disney movie -- forget that!)

    (3) You can only vote once (per person), and you get a PRIMARY fave and a number-TWO choice of strangest places for early Hemis. Primary choice count ONE full point; second choice counts a half-point. (Recommended you re-read the WHOLE thread so you can SEE the crazy things early Hemis were IN!)

    (4) No whining or *****ing! RULES ARE RULES. You get a vote-&-a-HALF, 'k?

    Now, THAT was simple! Let's give this 'til next Friday night. Then give me the weekend to tally up the votes-&-a-half. Barring a flood er sumpthin', I'll post the TOTALS on the following Monday.
     
  29. jimi'shemi291
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    HOLD the PHONE! I just remembered: I saw what seemed to be a reliable report a few months ago that Chrysler reserved a very FEW 392s for special-order -- ONLY for the top-of-the-line 1959 (!) Imperial South Hamptons!

    A 392 in an Imperial? Scarce but not strange, right?

    A 392 in ANYTHING 1959??? I think THAT qualifies as strange. So let's add it to the list (IF anybody BELIEVES it's actually true!).

    Thanks, gang.
     
  30. T Achilli
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    Off topic a hair, but don't forget Aussie Valient 6 Cyl Hemi
     

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