Painting woes. I WANT TO PUKE!!!!!

the mental image of this has got me cracking up now lol DAMMIT DAMMIT ! BAM!! AUGHHHHHHHHHH!!

 

How about when you have just applied the finish coat of 70 percent thinner and 30 percent paint and the dash looks just like wet glass a whole bunch of gnats fly into it !!!!!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

Been painting as a hobby for 30 plus years. Never a perfect paint job. I have become quite the wet sander and buffer though. I will use the brake shoes under the tires from now on. That is great.

 

It happens to all of us. I was putting the stainless around the vinyl top of a big dollar Camaro ~3 weeks ago, that I had just painted, and proceeded to run a screwdriver down the sail panel (stupidity). I just calmly started to disassemble and spray again.

I just finished a lacquer job on a 57 Chevy this week. I was on the final stages of buffing with 3M Ultrafina and I just sat the foam pad on the buffer, fired up the buffer and sent the foam pad across the shop and buffed the hood with the velcro backing pad. Scuff it and spray again.

I'm about 99% sure that most painters have similar stupid stories. I have had my fill the past couple weeks, I'm do for some easy jobs. I've been painting for years and have never seen a perfect paint job, lots of damn nice ones, but not perfect.

 

Thanks fellas. I feel better than I did this morning. Live and learn. The only real mistakes are the ones you don't learn from. Like I said first paint job ever so I was bound to have issues. It will all work ount in the end. Regards to all, Todd

 

I did have the PLEASURE of seeing your car the last year the Road Agents had a show. Still in grey primer but stunning none the less. I'm sure with the current paint job it is still awsome. Todd

 

I don't think those water spots will rust. Keep an eye on them for a couple of months just to be safe.

 

A PRO makes their mistakes in PRIVATE......
Alot of people here only see the perfect finished product on a project, not all of the problems that have been overcome to get it that way. I would write pages and pages of horror stories that have happened to me in the booth. Let's not forget all the DOUBLE TIME that I had to do to repair the paint problems to get the job delivered the next day...We all have problems...some just act like they dont!

 

Painting for 20 years, most of the time being in a homemade booth or garage, I think I've made every mistake and boo boo there is to make, and there will always be more to come. And many people seem to think the work is so easy, and you should be able to paint a car for a few hundred bucks like maaco advertises.
I don't wet down the floor anymore. I did for years as that is what I was taught, but after reading what others have said, I quit doing it. The problems it can cause outways the benefits. It raises the humidity in the garage which can cause problems like solvent popping or make for more water out of the compressor. In an activated paint, that can cause the iso's to clump and make for a dirtier job, even though its not really dirt. Unless a big wind blows through that kicks up a bunch of dust, very little dirt comes from the floor anyways, more likely comes from the car or the painter. Now I just clean the garage and hose out well the day before shooting and paint with a dry floor. Dragging a hose through water and wet feet suck anyways. Thankfully we don't get a lot of hot humid days here. I spent pretty much an entire weekend in a hot humid garage prepping taping up for two tone and shooting one, and don't want to do it again anytime soon. Didn't have the slowest hardener and reducer available not expecting those kind of temps, And I wound up with some pop and had to reshoot the top panels. I remember years ago painting a grand prix for my brother. After having trouble getting the metallic down without striping (not a lot of experience at that time and not the best gun and cheap omni base), finally got it all evened out. Started clearing and all was going well and looking good. Just got done shooting the second coat of clear, and a giant moth found its way inside. Landed smack in the middle of the hood and flapped all around, did the backstroke a few times and made a huge mess. Thankfully only had to repaint the hood.
And the most stupid in recent history. Was painting one and my base gun was acting up and spitting drops of paint. Took out the needle cleaned the aircap made sure vent hole and hose was clear, put back together. Still doing it. Stupidly not thinking point the gun at myself and look at the needle. Too many years of painting with siphon conventionals but my base gun has a pressurized cup. Shot a stream of paint square in my eye. Throw down the gun trying to find my way in the house to flush my eye out. Sat down for awhile with a burning eye. About an hour later go out to the garage still hurtin, cause I really want to finish the car and get it out of my site. Now besides having to sand and rebase the parts that the gun spit drops of paint on, I have to sand part of the car that was all based. When I threw down the gun during my little incident, it spashed big drops of paint all over the fender and door. So I break out the sandpaper, still half po and with a pair of old broken glasses on and a burning eye, and stay up late into the night determined to finish painting. Not sure what I did to fix the gun, but it started working again.
Painting can be a real adventure, some are beyond your control and there is always stupid human error that can cause many problems.

 

Painted a 32 sedan body in my garage almost 30 years with the then fairly new catalized acrylic enamel. Car looked great went into the house for lunch came back out and a lot of the color had slid off onto the floor. 3 weeks later sanded it with 400 wet, recoated, everything came out great. Car really color sanded and polished good with all that paint. Car is still wearing the same paint today.

 

Water and sweat drops aint nothing. Atleast the paint booth door didn't get caught by the wind and slam into your freshly finished job causing more bodywork to be done ,and having to repaint it. See it could definately be worse.

 

I feel better already, I painted my air cleaner and as soon as I started putting the last coat of clear on, the next door landscaping crew came over to cut their grass! I waited forever for a nice sunny day to bake the paint on. Grrr...

 

Hang in there,Years ago I was painting an O/T black hood that I had spent a LOT of time grafting a hood scoop onto.Was painting over at a cousins house,Soon after I had began I realized he had decided to burn the large brush pile on the other side of the house and had ashes raining down into the fresh paint.
When I was in a body shop class about 18 years ago a guy painted his 48 Plymouth,After allowing the paint to tack up we all went into the booth to check it out,the guy was really pleased with the results and promptly turned around and leaned on the fender as we were admiring his work,Left a perfect butt print in the paint.

 

its only lacquer. not a big deal.

 

Yeah, or how long it took to get the project to that point! I know I'm an impatient c*nt, but every time I go out to work on my ride, I think about all of the guys who have done it before, who probably f'd up along the way, yet turned it around to look awesome. I look at your photo pages a lot in hopes that my car will turn out half as cool as yours, so I have no doubt that whatever happens, the final outcome of your car will be completely bad ass.

BTW, I sculpt half nude chicks for a living. While other people fawn over them, all I can see are the places where I f'd up. Our errors are most often times the only things we see, while others rarely see them at all......unless you're that poor mid 50's car that some guy posted up here with a rumble seat, allocation for midgets, and a harley gas tank for the console......in that case it's the opposite situation of what I just said.

 

a little patience and thinking will avoid most errors such as stuck airhoses

my worst mistake[of many] was when I painted a sandblasted county roadgrader, ops may have missed on blowing off a bunch of hidden sand, put a lot of texture on the roof and onley used 5 gal of PPG on that job, they loved to remind me of that one and another county job [a lift truck]they blasted the inside of the swing away weight doors and never told me about it and I did not paint then inside, they liked to remind me of that too

well we will all make errors but to deal with them in a rational way is the test of a persons mettel, and yes many things have to be walked away from for a cooling down period
keep trying , the rest of us had to deal with big FUs before too!!

 

LOL.....Yea the back lot is full of all sorts of tools and coffee cups.

 

And believe Me, You'll never get the Corn Out ! !

 

Another way to say "Ball Bag"...

And I have learned the hard way about a lot of painting errors, and will make even more new mistakes, and some old ones again as well...

 

Well, anyone who says he has never made a mistake while painting a car or had something go wrong is lying. The better the painter is the more tricks he knows to fix problems as they turn up.

20 something years ago one of my students was painting a really sweet little 54 Chev a dark very metallic maroon with a white top. We got down to the last coat of paint on the Maroon and got a run on the passenger quarter. The only flaw in the car that was really noticeable. When I got home that night there was a magazine in the mail box with a short blurb on how to take a run out of fresh paint with masking tape. If the magazine had arrived the day before we could have most likely fixed the run to where it was presentable and gone about our business.

Now we are all waiting to see this painting effort when you get the photos posted.
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i agree my paint jobs are always shit in my eye.but my buddies say that they are good.


maybe they are is cheap as i am and want a halfassed paint job

 

when i was painting my car this spring i put a fan by the door{tent from tractor supply}to get some of the fumes out.this was also the fan i had in my garage when i was doing the body work.well in the last coat of clear{was supose to be}i kicked the fan over!!!and to my surprise it fell in not out,on my dirt driveway.POOF i see a cloud of bondo dust and dirt fly up in the air.i grabed it and through it about 25 feet.walked out got a beer and sat down.then another and another ect.about an hour later and adout 6 beers i went back in there and took some wax and grease remover and a scotch brite pad and got most of it out.just dont get mad just get even.

 

i have also grabbed some wax and grease remover thinking it was actavator and sprayed a car.thought it smelled funny but didnt think too much about it.put two coats on it went outside to let it set up.well it never did except on the floor where most of it ran off.then spent 2 days with 5 gallons of laquer thinner and a box of rags to get the rest off the car!!!now that sucked!!!

 

In the middle of painting my car crap comes flying out of my heater (don't worry, sealed combustion chamber) What happened was that dust and overspray built up on the fins of the blower over the years and decided to flake off right in the middle of my paint job. Crap ended up on the roof and hood. A little and patience and work fixed it.

 

pros call runs flow indicators

 

I have painted my share of cars, and I have never had the "perfect paint job". They always have to be rubbed,denibbed, run removed ,fly legs sanded out, etc. So don't feel bad it is the nature of the beast.

 

My old boss used to tell me that there are a certain amount of runs put into every can of paint and if you dont have any runs in your paintjob then you didnt put on enough material.

 

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How about when you have just applied the finish coat of 70 percent thinner and 30 percent paint and the dash looks just like wet glass a whole bunch of gnats fly into it !!!!!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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its only lacquer. not a big deal.
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Uhhhh No Catilized Enamel !!!!!


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y did u reduce it soooo much?

 

On the bright side, as long as you get the right bits done well, no one looks at the rest of them.

I've managed to get dirt and fisheyes into paint put on with a roller, so no one is immune to it.