I have found a car that I am interested in. It is a 1952 Plymouth 2dr. Here is the story on it. The current owner is a bodyman. The car was brought to him about 5 years ago and they wanted it painted. He painted it and they have never tried to get it or anything. The paint still looks ok put it has faded some. It has a nice set of steel wheels on it. It still has the original engine and ****** in it. I have only saw it at night. ***uming the body still looks pretty good and the floors are good, about what would it be worth. He is asking $800
Does it have the trim? And are you buying it from the bodyman without a ***le? That'd be the sticking point. What happens if you buy it and then the people who own it come after it? Unless the original owners surrendered the ***le to the bodyman or the body shop filed a mechanic's lein on it and got a new ***le from the state, I would avoid that car like the plague.
Noted, but if the body shop sells you someone elses car, it's still theft. If you're going to buy it, you need to contact those original owners and make sure they've actually abandoned the car. What if it was an old man who died, and the family doesn't know where the heirloom car is? Or just someone who abandoned all interest, but has all the missing pieces stashed away, who'll sell you the parts and give up the car for the bodyshop bill. You really need to find this stuff out. And if you're not willing to put the effort into it to check on this then don't even bother buying the car.
price is good way good. but you should contact your local DMV and ask for help on the paper work. remember this is a motor vin car. not a firewall mounted Vin. also left the rug at the floor drivers side and p***anger side to look at the rust in the floors. check the trunk and look below the tail lights and see how he treated the rust that gives a clue to his work.
Thanks. As far as paperwork goes on a non ***le car you get liability insurance and a notorized bill of sale and they will sell you a tag. On most of these old cars the original paperwork has been long gone
......like they said above. Beware. Who's to know if "they" (that wanted it painted) owned it? I would have to know a lot more, the names of the people that brought him the car. Five years isn't very long. If he's a body man, and it was a legit contract to paint it, he knows the name, If he don't know the name, something is amiss.
Doesn't he have to do a mechanics lien first? I wouldn't pay that much for a car with that kind of history. It's probably stolen.
That sounds like a good deal and I would buy it right away, get a notorized bill of sale or at least witnessed by a couple reputable people. Screw the paperwork and "possible" issues, if it feels right just do it.
I decided to p***. It needed floor pan and trunk pan work. The seats were gone and so was most of the interior. The deal would have been legit though. It was brought to him to paint he did his job and was paid. The car sat for the last 6 years. The owner had gotten cancer and basically gave up on the car. He wasn't goingto sell it to me without making sure the owner knew. He is supposed to call tomorrow and I am going to tell him I will have to p***. I guess it is good to have dad there to be the voice of reason
For future reference.... It does not matter if it is only a bill of sale car. The car legally belongs to the previous owner, NOT the shop UNLESS the shop filed a lien and obtained a court order giving them ownership or ***le, OR they have a bill of sale from the PO. Otherwise, the shop does not own it and cannot legally sell it to you. What that means in the real world is that sure, you could get a BOS from the shop owner and get a tag for it, but the LEGAL owner ALWAYS has the right to show up unannounced and take the car with the help of the police. If you want to buy it with that black clound over it, go for it. Also, if you sell it, and the PO claims it from the next owner, you could get sued for the sale price by the guy that bought it from you.
Actually, the law in most states says that the rightful owner is obliged to pay storage and repair charges before they can reclaim the vehicle. I think an average storage fee is around $15 a day and the "repair" cost is generally whatever the person having custody of the car says it is. The owner, if he fails to pay, forfeits his ***le and the person having custody can then conduct an auction where and when he chooses and generally gets the vehicle for the storage and repair costs which gives him ***le. Like I said, most states, not all have this type of process. I am not a lawyer (thank god) and I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last nite but I do have some experience with this.
With the car setting for 6 years he can charge storage. If he charged $1 a day the storage would be over $2000. I have decided to p*** since I hink it might be a $400 car to me
It get's tricky in small claims court (takes about 8 years for your case to come up) and some of the dumbest judges are ***igned to the court (judge Judy comes to mind). I wouldn't touch a car without a ***le, unless I was going to take it to a demo derby. Life's too short.
if you did buy it and tried to register it they would send a paper in the mail to the original owners for the ***le..if they didnt want the thing and just hand over the ***le than ok cool.. if they did want it they would have to pay you what you paid for it....basically NO ***LE NO DEAL....and alot of people say ooo its no problem when they try to sell it, so i always tell them if its not a problem you get it straightened out and i will buy. if not than have a good day..
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