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Clarification: S10 rearend in my '52 Chevrolet Styleline.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SanDiegoJoe, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. SanDiegoJoe
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    I have done a bunch of searching around and have come up with this info:

    1. The stock rear end in my Chevy is 60"

    2. The stock rear end in a 67-69 Camaro is 60" - Later Camaro/ Firebird is 62.5" (great link 50merc808)

    3. The rear end in a 4x4 S10 is 59"

    4. There is a tag in the glovebox of the S10 that tells the gearing of the rear end:
    GU4=3.08
    GU5=3.23
    GU6=3.42
    GT4=3.73 - this is the one that I want.
    GT5=4.10
    HC4=4.56
    G80 - locking differential


    5. The rear tires on my car rub the skirts right now. I have a set of radials on there until I can pop for a set of bias plys. 1/2 inch on either side would probably solve that and allow me to run the radials with skirts if I choose to in the future (unlikely, but possible).

    6. The only modification that needs to be made to a Camaro or S10 rear end is to move the leaf pads to the stock '52 location.

    7. The 2X4 S10 rear is too narrow for a 49-54 Chevy (thanks for measuring LaidoutRivi63)

    So - am I correct???

    thanks!
    - Joe
     
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  2. 49ratfink
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    what year Camaro rear do you have? I was thinking the 70-80? was wider that stock, 67-69 a bit narrower.

    if your tries rub the skirts with a stock rear you need a different rim or smaller tire
     
  3. 53sled
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    make sure it is an s10 4x4, 2wd is more narrow. and the stock locating pin is more forward, you have to drill a new hole to center the wheel. if you use posies springs it is correct.
    I have a 3.42 with shorter tires. It is begging for an overdrive or some 28" tall tires at least.
     
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  4. 55 dude
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    s10 4x4 is the way to go these days. the days of 55'-57' rears are over, their getting like hens teeth.
     
  5. 49ratfink
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    do you know the width of the 2WD off hand?
     
  6. LaidoutRivi63
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    ive got one ill go measure right now

    I've got 54.5" from the outside of each of the drums
     
  7. 50merc808
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  8. SanDiegoJoe
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    Wow - 50merc808, that link is awesome!

    thanks man
    - Joe
     
  9. Lobucrod
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    Second gen camaro will go in with the spring pads as is. Just have to drill a new hole for the spring bolt.
     
  10. 50merc808
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    not a problem.
     
  11. 49ratfink
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    damn... that would have been good to know when I put mini tubs in a 57 Chevy a few years back.. thanks.
     
  12. SanDiegoJoe
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    Is the pinion angle correct, too?

    - Joe
     
  13. J Man
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    I have a '50 with a S10 rear. I am thinking a 2wd but not 100% sure. It is too narrow and it has spacers to get the wheels to fit in the fenders right. If I was to redo the car I would swap in another rear, this would also allow me to buy a narrower rear wheel.
     
  14. If the pinion angle's not right, shims are cheap.

    Pretty much the easy choices boil down to if you want to weld perches on, if you want to run skirts or not, and just what sort of ratio you want in the car. It's easier to find an S10 4x4 limited slip with like a 3.73, though, if only because most of them have RPO codes you can check easily.

    But if welding perches doesn't bother you, the mid-80s G-body (Monte Carlo and clones) is also a good fit. Those have coil springs and trailing arms, but it's no more work to slice that stuff off than old perches.

    If you don't want to weld, the second-gen Camaro is 61.5" and only needs the pin hole drilled. I hit a site the other night that says 72-74 Chevy Nova is the same width, too. They're a tad harder to find, but not impossible.
     
  15. I have a S-10 4X4 rear in mine. 3.42 gears. I removed the old spring pads and got some new pads from speedway. I probably could have used the old ones but for the price it was worth going with new ones. Todd
     
  16. turdmagnet
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    What motor do you have in your 52 ?? I've got a flat six in my poncho - 3.42 gears, T5 with 0.73OD with 205/75/15's - and I'm revving about 1700 @ 55mph - great for long cruises !!!
     
  17. SanDiegoJoe
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    Jesus Jason - how long have you known me, man? I do everything online! I'm thinking of getting into this program: http://www.netaddictionrecovery.com

    It's a hopped up 250 built by GMCBubba. It will be backed up by a 700r4 and 3.73 gears.

    - Joe
     
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  19. kenagain
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    Ya should have read the rules Joe now your in trouble Dont let this happen again
     
  20. atomickustom
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    Yes, Joe, you are correct.
    One word of advice: I have a 3.42 in my '53 Chevy and it revs over 3,000rpm on the highway with a turbo 350 trans. Unless you have an overdrive trans I'd urge you to get a 3.08 instead.
     
  21. aldixie
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    I have a 50 with a 78 camaro rear on a 4 link with bag over shocks. Fits with just enough clearance with the standard wheels. If I wanted wider tires I would have to change the offset of the wheels.
     
  22. Jalopy Joker
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    Oh No Joe broke "The Club" code of ethics rule: do not talk to others. I always heard rules were made to be broken. As a side note I have Shoebox Ford with 2X4 S10 rearend and have to run very narrow tires or will have to use offset wheels or spacers. Have a early Mustang 8" rear that I might switch to later.
     
  23. tudorkeith
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    if all you need is more clearence, wouldn't it be easier to get rims with a different offset?
     
  24. 55 dude
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    the only application for s10 2x4 rear might be model a or older than a 31' anything. someone correct me if this is wrong but they are mighty narrow and spacers really aren't the answer.
     
  25. SanDiegoJoe
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    I'm converting to an open driveline, so I have to change the rear end. Also, the stock '52 Chevy wheels look really damn cool - and I have the stock ribbed beauty rings. They only fit the stock wheels.

    Yeah Tubmaster, it's going to kill.

    - Joe
     
  26. BICKFORD
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    i just wanted to apologize to joe on here. i shouldnt of reacted like that. i was having a bad and busy day at work and had a few min brake. i went on here and over reacted. yes i am an *** and i do know it. when im wrong i will step up and say it. sorry joe.
     
  27. Lobucrod
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    Not 100% sure but it would be easy to correct with wedges instead of cutting the pad loose and rewelding.
     
  28. SanDiegoJoe
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    It's all good Jason. Thanks man... See you at your son's b-day party.

    MARAUDERS!
     
  29. SanDiegoJoe
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    Question: I found a 4x4 S-10 rear end out of an '89 V6 pickup. The guy that has it doesn't have the numbers from the glovebox, and the tag on the rear end is missing.
    He says that there was only 1 gear ratio for the 4x4s (not that he said what that was) - anyone know if that is true, and if so, what was the ratio?

    thanks!
    - Joe
     

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