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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ltex old iron, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. ltex old iron
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    ok guys i have an old catolog/magazine called Motor Age from January 3, 1918
    ok the front it has a sketh of an old touring car in pieces and laying on the ground next to it is a V8 motor, it is not a plathead type it looks actually close to the sketch of an early hemi but does not have the plug holes in the vale covers, also it has a bell housing on the back of it, and some kind of cylinder shaped thing laying on top where the intake would be..

    does anyone know what it would be and i may be wrong but were'nt the not v8 motors in 1918 yet for cars?
    if so please give me some info to clear my confusion
     
  2. 49ratfink
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    Chevrolet had a V8 in 1918. I'm sure there were others
     
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  4. jimi'shemi291
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    Charles King was one of the ORIGINAL pack of invetors & entrepreneurs to make cars back in the EARLIY days. Henry Ford even followed Charles test-driving an early-model KING around the streets of Detroit. Ford was on a bicycle, by the way!

    When King stopped, Ford pummeled him with questions & looked over King's car in DETAIL.

    My point: Once Charles King got production up & running, once of his ads proclaimed that one of their power plants was "the best" American V-8 of the day.
     
  5. G V Gordon
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    yea, my money's on Chevrolet. The were nicknamed the "baby grand" because of all the exposed rockers. I know a family that has one restored.
     
  6. jimi'shemi291
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    RatFink, that surely LOOKS like a V-8 to me! Year of the ad?
     
  7. 29nash
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    Chevrolet chief "Billy" Durant temporarily put aside his quest for success in the low-price arena and ordered that a new V-8 Chevrolet go on sale -- nearly four decades before Chevy's famed 1955 small-block V-8 would appear.

    Advanced in design, the 1917 V-8 had a central camshaft operating vertical overhead valves in each bank, a counterweighted crankshaft, and detachable crossflow cylinder heads. Displacing 288 cubic inches and breathing through a Zenith two-barrel carburetor, it developed 55 horsepower at 2,700 rpm, running on 4.75:1 compression.
    Billed as "A New and Greater Chevrolet," the mid-priced V-8 cost $1,385 (more than a Buick) and failed to attract a sizable crop of customers. Riding a 120-inch wheelbase, the touring car weighed 3,200 pounds.

    Not only was the V-8 Chevrolet's most powerful engine yet, but years would p*** before another could beat it in horsepower. Its new ch***is heralded the forthcoming light-car trend, featuring quarter-elliptic cantilever springs at the rear.

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1917-chevrolet-series-d-v-8.htm
     
  8. ltex old iron
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    heres a pic of the sketch i was talking about, you can see the motor on the ground next to the car
    [​IMG]
     
  9. docauto
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    Wills St. Claire?
     
  10. That sketch is generic enough it could be anything, but yes they had V8s in the teens.
     
  11. 49ratfink
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    it's a page from a 1918 sales brochure. or was it 1917?? I forgot. either way they only made it for one year.
     
  12. jimi'shemi291
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    29Nash, excellent & solid info, buddy! THX
     
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    Yes, it all goes to SHOW (as auto historians have said), early car-makers were trying ALL sorts of cylinder configs. That's why I pointed out that Charles King advertised HIS V-8 as the best of the breed -- and that was before WWI.

    As I recall, Henry Ford tried to make a 6-cyl car BEFORE the successful T-Model four. And that failed, but he eventually found something that WORKED (the "T" four) and could price it low enough that people would BUY them in numbers. He also borrowed other car-makers' idea of a systematic production process -- step by step, with different teams doing each step. Henry, however, is I think properly credited with a sort of "conveyor-belt" type of factory production, which did help keep his unit cost DOWN. BINGO!
     
  14. early rodeck?? the chev V8??


    to top off the Chev V8 then it was even a aluminum block
    technology was alive and well many years ago:D
     
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  16. 49ratfink
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    hey I got an idea. why don't you NOT google everything I post and try to correct it? if it really made a ****ing difference I'd have gone back and looked.
     
  17. oilslinger53
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    Could be anything, there were well over 100 car makers back then. It could even be just a rough sketch of an engine. Not any particular engine, but just an engine. Like the trucks I used to draw when I was a kid!
     
  18. Chevy Gasser
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    I know a guy who has a 1917 Chevrolet with a V8 in it, he also has an extra engine.
     
  19. 39 All Ford
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    Duh,, That is an early Mark !V "Mystery Motor", BBC of course.


    :D
     
  20. ltex old iron
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    the picture of the sketch i posted was only a piece of the page which was not an ad for any vehicles is was an article about the war causing focus on mainly trucks...the sketch i posted is from January 3rd 1918, there were way more than 100 cars at that time because the magazine has all the information and specs on every one that was in production at the time, id say its several hundreds...
     
  21. jimi'shemi291
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    Eugene Vik, your are sure RIGHT. Metalurgy, fuel types & systems, transmission design, ch***is/body -- EVERYTHING -- those guys from the 1890s right into the new era of M*** production in the early & mid-'20s were on top of their game.

    I really respect them, because they tried SO many different things, all in the quest for the best designs (intended of course to sell cars!).

    EVEN though most of the early auto minds fell by the wayside during the '20s, their PIONEERING work went a long way to building the FOUNDATION on which the auto giants of the '20s onward would stand. I'm talking guys like Duryea, Olds, King, Winton, Stanley, Brush, Stutz, on and on!!!
     

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