Street Rodder Mag builds ???????? truck

VERY Well said!!!!

 

Well ,what magazine,back in the day, actually bought one of those cabs brand new from GM and built their shop truck?It was quite a sensation then.Look at the rods and customs we enjoy from the past.Not all of them were built on a budget or by the average back yard rodder.how much did it cost to take your nearly new car and have George Barris waver his magic torch over it and prompty garner magazine coverage?

 

I like this truck from Goodguys Chicago last weekend...

 

Stop reading it. Problem solved.

 

You want to find un-biased info on building cars, be it high dollar builds or the cheapest way to do something? Isn't that why we are here? I will follow the Street Rodder build, and take from it the information that I can, but it doesn't even come close the knowledge I gain here.

 

if my experiences with repop sheetmetal is any indication that repop cab is going to take quite a bit of tweaking in order to achieve the fit and finish I ***ume the end product will have. I doubt they will show the ****py fit they start with and the hours needed to get it all right.

9G's for the cab.... couple more for the hood and junk, hundred hours of work to get it to fit right. sounds good to me. it's not my money.

they'll probably gay it up like they did the green 52 Bel air.

 

Just a little OT; but speaking of the latest Street Rodder, fellow Hamber Glenn Kramer's '32 P/U shop truck is on page 90!!!

 

most of these magazines will get parts donated to them for these builds because it is adverti*****t for the manufacturers.
as someone who works in the street rod retail market, i can vouch for the fact that the biggest selling point of these bodies and frames is that you are not doing rust repair. if someone is paying $75 an hour to straiten a frame and repair rust and floors and such, the aftermarket stuff is the way to go. while there is nothing like original steel, it just doesn't matter as much to some people.

 

I have worked on that truck in street rodder. It may be nice to have all that new steel but all most everytime I/we at the shop have worked on that thing we have to modify to fit most parts. Even the gauge housing fell right thru the dash. So the point iam making is that on top of all the pricy parts and the crazy shipping it would take just to get these parts to your door step you still have to put quite a few hours to make it all work. As most of you guys no almost all of the aftermarket sheet metal out there is never just bolt on. I my opinion O.G steel is always better.

Another thing I dont get is why are they making these bodies any way its not like there hard to find. I understand that people will buy them but I could go out and find a several of those five window trucks. There not very hard to find out west I cant speak for you guys in the mid-west and east coast.

 

Even though I had the cowl, I had to buy the doors, rear panels, corners and wood to build this car. With shop time, I have an easy six to eight grand plus 18 months of time just on the cab. Had the new cab been available last year, I would have bought it in a heart beat.


From the Sacramento Vintage Website:
Now we don't want to get you too excited, and we will have more details later, but look for an Brand New, ALL STEEL 1928-29 Closed Cab Pickup body at Sacramento Vintage....soon!

It has an all steel roof (that can be covered to look original) AND the cab is available in the original depth AND an EXTENDED cab version.

We will also have the hard to find doors available for your 1926-27 'T' or 1928-29 'A' project, as well as the other body panel including the extended cab corner sections.

Please stay tuned.........

 

Some people have time, talent and incentive, and love old cars.
Some people have only money, and love old cars.
Give them each some slack.

oldguard, give Mark Twain credit for your sig.

 

I always thought that quote came from Groucho Marx.

 

It was in Cl***ic Trucks a couple months ago. Fortier described it as being "his latest project". Interesting to see what direction it takes....

 

oldguard, give Mark Twain credit for your sig.


Actually it was Groucho Marx referring to the either the LA Country club or the Riveria CC on You Bet Your Life.

There is a similar quote from Twain.

 

"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/groucho_marx.html

"...I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member".
* As quoted in The Groucho Letters (1967) by Arthur Sheekman. The sentiment predates Groucho, however; it likely originated with John Galsworthy, The Forsyte Saga, chapter II: Old Jolyon is said to despise the club that took him as a member after another refused him because he was in trade.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Groucho_Marx

 

I thought it was too much as well, but I am not paying for it.

 

The market for just about everything is hurting. The mags are trying to keep their advertisers going.

Fact: if you run a company that always bought 1 to 2 full pages per month, and now cannot afford an ad, the mags will run your normal ads anyways...and hope you stay solvent.

 

The thing that gets me is when they have certain parts lying around. "Oh we had this GM Performance Parts LS waiting on us in the corner. It only costed ten grand." Geez if only I had ten grand to throw at my junk. I could easily build my truck and have change for a drink. To me things have gotten out of hand. Everytime you hear budget build you think of some guy building an old T and using parts from a tractor. Now it is buy it from so and so and just bolt it on and go. Plus who in the real world can afford a repop body? Truck or roadster. Good greif those things cost big bucks and you still have tons of **** work to do. It would be nice to start out without rust but it aint gonna happen when you a little guy in his backyard bustin knuckles.

 

Let me see if I can help clear the "muddy waters." First off there's nothing wrong with the repro dash or the gauges. The gauge bezels (prevent gagues from falling through the dash) didn't originally come with the gauges but now I am confident they will fit just fine.

While I am neither an accomplished builder nor do I claim to be I have been around the hobby long enough to know there're any number of reasons why anyone does anything. Not the least of which is to try something different.

Let me give a quick background on the reason behind building a reproduction '47 Chevy pickup when there is plenty of gennie material. The intent of the build was to show a hot rodder who may have a complete original truck or parts that there's a way to fill in the gaps quickly and affordably (and I realize this is open to conjecture) should pieces be missing.

Let's say you have a good cab but need fenders or running boards, they are out there. You need doors, a bed, inner sheetmetal, it's all out there. Yes, you can get original parts but all of us are aware there will be time and effort into bringing these parts up to speed. For those with the budget or wish to reduce the timeline reproduction parts are effective.

I am sure all of us have gone over in our minds many times, "Is it cost effective to rejuvenate an old part; i.e. frame, sheetmetal, etc...or to start fresh." Sometimes the cost difference is great other times it is surprising how affordable it is to start fresh. Of course, if you don't have the budget then you are going to invest loads of your time because you have it and it doesn't cost "real" dollars. I get that.

I remember back in the '70s (probably before some of your were born) when Brookville came out with the Model A roadster body. "Why would anyone buy one of them when you could get Model A's all day long for cheap (even by '70s standards) and fibergl*** cars were much less. Back then fibergl*** cars didn't carry the unfortunate stigma that they do today. Anyway we went ahead and did editorial on the Brookville Model A and I confident one can say it was successful. Then came the '32 roadster, coupe, etc... It has all been good for our hobby in the long haul.

I am not trying to change anyone's opinion but rather provide adidtional data thay can be used to make an informed decision. Hope what I have said was useful.

Well, I am in the midst of the current fiasco with the State of California and hot rod registration/emission standards and need to get back to doing my homework on this one. BB/SRM