Painters question. Spraying a silver flake over silver base

The only experience I have with metalflake is what I have sprayed either in a single stage or when I did the Fly years ago. It was bc/cc.

With that said, I was wondering if the color of base would make much difference in the outcome of the final color? I realize that this sounds self explanitory, but I wonder if I used a brighter silver, if it would kind of lose it luster in indirect sunlight.......if that makes any sense. I want the flake to show up and not look muddy.

Should I just pick a silver out of the production line color chips and go for it or is there one particular shade that makes the flake pop? I am after a 60's show car look but not to the point of b*** boat style.

I am spraying Roth Std. size flake,.015" and suspending it in dbc500. I have a 2.5mm tip (which may be a little large) in a cheap HF gun for the flake and the rest of my clear will be sprayed through my Sata 2000 with a 1.4 tip.

It will be BC/CC PPG line.

Thanks in advance,

Root

 

the silver base coat will be there for the space between the flakes

 

If you use a darker silver base to lay your flake on top of it will pop more.

If you plan to candy on top your flake you can also go back in again with the color blender/suspender with some flake on top of the candy again or have your first layer of clear coat have some flake in it. It gets that deep layered look like a b*** boat hehheheh.

Rome

 

Yes, the rule of thumb is the base should be 1-2 shades darker than the flake. It helps it contrast and pop more.

Are you going to candy over it or just silver base with silver flake?

 

No candy, just base with silver flake. See, I would have been wrong with my ***umption. I thought the brighter the silver the more reflection I would have and the flake would pop. That's good to know.

 

thanks for that too....gona be doing silver flake over a silver base and then lime green candy...is it the same advice?

 

Ya but its less noticable in that case. Just flake over a base its really obvious, when it gets covered up with candy it becomes less noticable, the darker the candy even less noticable.

I'm gonna say less noticable one more time here, less noticable.

 

Have you considered Acryllic Enamel?

Apparently it's the lastest and greatest.

 

Can we please keep the threads seperate? Last thing we need is him coming over here and telling us to use dust from your lathe instead of metalflake because its cheaper...

 

my bad

 

now thats funny..................


on some silver flake jobs, ive based them in silver, then gone to those ppg sequins (mini flakes) then dusted larger flakes over that for a real kickn effect.

generally i put candy panels on mine, and leave some exposed silver for conrast.

the darker base is a good tip though, the jewel flake even looks killer on black base.


skull

 

That sounds really cool! Have any close-ups of that?

 

ill try and dig some up, pre digital jobs, lol



skull

 

Haha! Better warm up the scanner now then!

 

just did that same thing on a bike of brothers..... outside it has a sunburst effect and changes from gold to orange to red .

 

heres the roof of my 63 cad, done in a way like skullhat said. silver base with smaller flake first, then followed with larger.

 

This is interesting. If you have the small flake first how could you see it at all? It looks like it would be a wasted effort. Not trying to argue, just curious.

 

with just big flake, you get the gaps to the base. the smaller flakes show in these gaps.
for me, less flake makes for a better kick, as they lay flat, and dont cover each other. so if you fill in the smaller gaps with the samll flake you get their kick, as well as the kick from the more spread out larger flake.

ive seen jobs where the guy tried to cover the base with big flake and wound up with less kick. no law says you gotta cover the base completely either, i just prefer jobs that look good up close, and *****e under the streeet lights

skull

 

Is there an average on ounces per cup of material?

 

Ususally in 1 qt RTS I'll put 2-3 plastic s****fuls. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

 

Thanks. That's a good place to start.

 

(on some silver flake jobs, ive based them in silver, then gone to those ppg sequins (mini flakes) then dusted larger flakes over that for a real kickn effect.)

That is what I did on mine. I first laided down the bas than mini silver flake than standard rainbow flake and finally the rainbow monster flake