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Let's see your AMC or alternative US made drivetrains!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by decker, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. we have a low mileage 1970 AMC AMX "survivor car" in the shop right now... i haven't seen one in ages and it's kinda cool in a certain way... wicked short wheelbase too.

    i can't recall ever seeing a hot-rod with an AMC drivetrain in it... ever. so lay it on us... as long as it isn't a GM, Ford or Chrysler setup.:rolleyes:

    Edit... AMC TECH right here... good stuff... http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=102133 :D
     
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  2. storm king
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    I don't think the "Drag cars in motion" thread has to worry about this one!:D
    Cool idea; but I rarely remember seeing AMC powerplants in AMC's these days!
     
  3. no kidding! :)

    (i'm still curious though)
     
  4. fatabone
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    I think there is a Rebel Reaper with an AMC.
     
  5. 6t5frlane
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    I guess you never saw the Drag On Lady Shirley Shahan in her AMX
     
  6. fatabone
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    Rebel Reaper in action
     

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  7. Don Moyer
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    here is a pic of my motor.....I also have plans for an Es*** in my head that will be amc powered.....at the g***er reunion my buddy martin had his amc powered Opel Kadet there and there was an amc powered altered. I am sure there are more! Beep Beep!


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  8. Unkl Ian
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    Peterson Publishing did a series on a '36 Ford roadster,back in the '70s.
    It was powered by an AMC V8.
     
  9. Shifty Shifterton
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    What are ya talkin about? :) An AMC drivetrain will have all those makes in it, hence the name "All Makes Combined"

    If memory serves they liked GM distributors, carbs, and alternators, Chrysler transmissions, & Ford rearends
     
  10. Ramblur
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    Little OT,but heres our Hurst SS AMX at Indy in 75. 390,
    Doug Nash ST-10,and a dana 60. Bill Jenkins can
    be seen behind the car in this pic.
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  12. Rootie Kazoootie
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  14. RichFox
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    Maybe you didn't see the Packard. Been pictured here before. They came in Nash and Hudson cars in '55.
     
  15. storm king
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    Sure I saw Shirley, and we raced against the WIBG Gremlin and Gremlin X in NED1 pro stock back in the day. I worked at an AMC dealer and built the crash box for the dealer's SC/Rambler.
    So, do you think this will surp*** the drag cars in motion thread? Because that's all I said.
     
  16. screwball
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    R&C did an A.M.C. 6 drag motor build article back in the 70s I know I have the mags some where in my piles.
     
  17. 6t5frlane
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    My Bad, Storm. I thought you meant that there were not many AMC Drag Cars out there. Apologies........
     
  18. storm king
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    Well, there aren't MANY if the comaprison is with Chevy, Ford, Mopar, or probably Honda, for that matter. Doesn't make them bad. I love AMC stuff, they just never made the power the others did, probably due to not enough foks messing with them. When Maskin and Kanners and Wally Booth stepped up they were conteneders. Of course the work they did on the Gremlin project led to the beginning of Dart cylinder heads.
    Just my .02, the UAW killed AMC. They built absolute **** which was a shame since the cars themselves were very straight forward; basic and sound construction. I loved driving the SC/Rambler, and the 390 AMX's, even the Gremlins, but I had cars come in from the factory with missing dashboards (ALL of it!) no water pumps, no fasteners in the grill, etc, etc. management couldn't control the UAW, and AMC didn't have enough backing them up to recover. Mopar almost didn't, and the **** came in and aalmost destroyed the US auto industry. Which is what they deserved for selling such ****. Sorry to get a bit O/T, back to our regularly scheduled program!
     
  19. Homemade44
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  20. I had fun with this one for a time.
    The 1981 4WD Eagle was the wifes car in the 1980's.
    Installed a 1977 Pacer 258, with a big port head from a 1969 232, I did port work, bigger valves, made an HEI for it in the early 80's, Crane cam, and knocked 10 seconds off the 0-60 times to make it a semi-hotrod.

    The Gremlin is also AMC powered. Got into the Final Four round at the dragstrip the very first time I took it to the track.

    401grem-eagle.jpg


    401gremlinburn.jpg


    401gremlindart.jpg
     
  21. hotrodjeep
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    Time to bring this on up again...

    The 258 with the 4bbl and header is mine.
    The rest were harvested from the net

    I know the Bill Kraft Marlin eventually got a Hemi but it started AMC. 287/327 I believe.

    The stock car pic is a Marlin #22 any of you got anymore info on that one?

    The last on is the AMC/Kiaser 230 OHC I6, They modified this one to road race in Argentina, I believe.
    I've got two of them but there stock, and no pics.

    Thanks Jeff
     

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  22. dalesnyder
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    OT car, but heres mine..
    [​IMG]
     
  23. The Brudwich
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    Can't find a pic of it, but back in the 70's, Spence Murray built an AMC powered '36 Ford. I think there's a little feature of it in a somewhat recent issue of TRJ.
     
  24. Anyone know if one of these 327's was ever stuffed into a Hot-Rod... back in the day?

    327
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    Engine bay of a 1963 AMC Amb***ador with a 327 V8 4-barrel


    The AMC 327 was similar to the 287, but displaced 327 cubic inches (5.4 L) due to the bore increase to 4.0 inches. Unlike the 250, the 327 came with hydraulic valve lifters.
    The EFI 327 was rated at 288 hp (215 kW), and the production 4V carbureted model at 255 hp (190 kW). All the EFI cars were reportedly converted to 4V carb before being sold; none are known to have existed outside the engineering department at AMC. The main problem was that vacuum tube and early transistor electronics just could not keep up with the demands of "on the fly" engine controls. Ironically, Bendix licensed patents based on the 1957 the design (patent dated 1960) to Bosch, who perfected it as the basis for their D-Jetronic injections system, first used in 1967. From this one could derive that the 1957 Rebel (and EFI in general) was ten years ahead of its time.
    The engine debuted in a special edition Rambler Rebel of which only 1500 were made. All had silver paint with a gold-anodized "spear" on each side. This was to be the first electronic fuel injected (EFI) production engine, but teething problems with the Bendix "Electrojector" unit meant that only a few engineering and press cars were built, estimated to be no more than six units. At least two pre-production Rebels with EFI, however, are known to have been built. One was sent to Daytona Beach, Florida for "Speed Week" (the forerunner of today's Daytona 500). It was the second fastest car on the beach, bested only by a 1957 Chevrolet Corvette with mechanical fuel injection, and only by a couple tenths of a second.
    The 327 was not available in any other Rambler models in 1957 other than the Special Edition Rebel. The Nash Amb***ador and Hudson Hornet "Special" models were dropped after 1956, replaced by standard wheelbase models with the 327 V8 instead of the 250 V8. When the big Nash and Hudson cars were dropped after 1957, they were replaced by the 1958 "Amb***ador by Rambler" — a stretched Rebel (Rambler V8) with the 327 V8 instead of the 250. The 327 was exclusive to the Amb***ador line and could not be ordered in a Rebel or Cl***ic through 1964. For 1965 and 1966 the 287 and 327 were both available in the Cl***ic or Amb***ador.
    The 327 was also sold to Kaiser Motors from 1965 to 1967 for use in the early Wagoneers and the Gladiator pick-ups. Jeep called it the "Vigilante" V8. Kaiser-Jeep switched to Buick 350s in 1967 to power these vehicles. The GM engine was used up to 1970 when Jeeps once again were powered by AMC. That was the year American Motors acquired the Jeep Division of Kaiser.
    There was a low and high compression version of the 327 starting in 1960. Prior to 1960 all were high compression. All low compression models used a 2V carburetor and all high compression models received a 4V carb. "Low" compression was 8.7:1, high 9.7:1. Piston top design changed compression, the heads were identical.
     
  25. A friend here in Sweden had a Gremlin that he was messing with in the mid-80's ,bored and stroked 390, had around 450 cu.in. and went mid 10's all day long with a small shot of nitrous,funny story is when he used the nitrous for the first time: something said crash and bang under the car but it ran anyway,he turned back and a friend looked under the car and found that the bolts holding the gearbox was broken and the gearbox had spun a half turn and was only stopped by the wires to the shifter.

    And about the makin power thing: Anybody heard about Fred Brewer in Oklahoma,made some serious-stuff alu-heads for the AMC V8 ,had an all steel AMX with a bored 401 that went low 8's some 20 years ago "give or take" Talked with him on the phone a couple of times back then but lost contact and don't know if he's still around,would be in his 60's now I suppose.

    Enough of that,heres a video-clip of my roadster,powered by a AMC/Jeep inline,Holley 600 vac carb on a Offenhauser intake,also got an 20 year old Crane hydraulic cam spinning inside otherwise stock "for now"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CnnYRs6A6k
     
  26. american opel
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    heres my 1967 opel kadett g***er with a 360 and turbo 400.and yes its a 400 out of a jeep!!its not the fastest but its fun to drive!!!!!
     

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  27. zombo27
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    My Studebaker has a 304 in it. No pics tho'. It was in it when I got it. I will probably run it til it dies. If it ever does.
     
  28. Phil1934
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    Indy Cylinder heads still does aluminum AMC heads, but the wildest was Wally Booth's cut and stacked cylinder heads to get larger ports until they were outlawed.
     
  29. Just a few Ive been involved in with a die hard AMC buddy of mine!?!?!
     

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