Can anyone ID these flathead heads?

I just got these from a well respected flathead guy and he was at a loss as to who made them. They look similar to Hotten & Sullivan or Allstate, but there are no markings on them or evidence of previous fins. They are early style, but have the boss for the late distributor hold down.
They appear to never have been run or bolted on either.
Thanks in advance for any help.

 

I have no idea but think it's interesting that they have the keyhole cooling p***ages on the front as well as the rear.

 

Don't know.
Not Weiand cheater heads,I have those on my car.

I like the oil filter boss built in.
Very cool.

 

Interesting, center water outlet with the 8BA distributor mount in place.

Nice heads

 

Who ever built them was looking for as much cross marketing as possible. Not the worst idea. Casting without fins made them less expensive to boot.

 

Saw something similar at a swap meet. The guy said they were a marine head.

 

Wow! I can't believe nobody has any ideas on these. This is killing me.
What do I have?

 

Have the '50 and up oil filter bosses. Possibly European??

 

I was tinking French military?

 

Did the French built flatheads use metric hardware or standard US issue?

 

Those rule. You should paint them flat black though.

 

Yea.....I was thinking I'd sandblast 'em to get rid of that smooth finish too.

 

**** Brett, those are cool. Can't help you with the ID, but I'm suitably jealous anyway.

You sell a kidney or something? Those look pretty spendy.

 

Wow, those are pretty kick ***.

 

Nope, just emptyed a few socks at the "bank"
Seriously, they were a really good deal.
The best I can figure is they are either Allstate or Hotton&Sullivan. I'm just not sure which because they are very similar. Here's the history
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119235

 

Hotten & Sullivan? any relation to Andy Hotten? -Brian

 

Hotton, not Hotten .... I got it .... -Brian

 

Wow, forgot about this thread....I'll bite...who's Andy Hotten?
B.