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What can or should be done with a 235

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Here2learn, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Here2learn
    Joined: Sep 10, 2009
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    I have a 56 chevy pick up with a 235ci inline six. I know there a bullet proof engine and dont need much but, Was wonderin if any one knew of any modification that can be done or should be done to improve them.
     
  2. rcnut223
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    i HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND WONDERED WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE CRANK PULLEY/BALANCER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PULLIES . cURRENTLY ONLY HAS ONE.
     
  3. retromotors
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    A thread search here on the HAMB for "235", "Chevy 235" or "stovebolt" should bring up lots of good info. Do both this forum and the tech threads.

    Here's a link to a very interesting build. It's a long, involved build of a stroker engine. The first section is general Chevy six info, and covers the 235 among other displacements. If you're up for it, the build is up to chapter 16!:D
    http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=397&SID=4
     
  4. Snarl
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    What sort of improvements are you looking for?

    Durability? economy? performance? maintenance?


    Only dual groove damper was used on 53-up cars with power steering or A/C. They usually go for $200 or so on Ebay. Good luck....
    I have developed some brackets that allow you to add PS and/or AC to your 235 without needing a dual groove damper, assuming that's what you're after...
     
  5. 6inarow
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    Well, I worked with BHJ and we came up with a modern dual groove balancer that is EXACTLY the same size as the stock single groove balancer - only it aint 60 years old. It is well balanced and takes a lot of the harmonics out of the long crank. I have one on my 235
     
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  6. panic
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    I know there a bullet proof engine

    Where do people get these ideas from?

    Isn't someone going to say "they have a lot of torque"?
     
  7. Carguy365-24-7
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    I just saw a new bracket and pulley system for stovebolts from Vintage air .Might be worth looking into...PAUL
     
  8. 6inarow
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    do they offer a dual groove balancer? thats the dual groove balancer I was referring to
     
  9. oneratfink57
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    my dad had a 51 chevy sedan delivery with a bored over, stroked, with split manifolds(exhaust and intake) with an inline 6. far as i knew it was the original motor modified. A machine shop will say anythings possible with a price:D
     
  10. CJ Steak
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    I'll bite.

    You pull this crap in almost every thread i've seen you post in. But if that's how you get your jollies so be it then.

    -Chris
     
  11. 6inarow
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    this dork puled this crap over on the inliners board too until he honked off enough people that he got his butt booted off.
     
  12. CJ Steak
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    LOL - I figured as much.



    And to the original poster... as long as you keep in mind that it's an old inline six with ancient head design, and you won't make any real crazy horsepower without spending a good amount of dough in it, you should have fun.

    I've built plenty of old inline sixers. Only one was a true ass kicker, but it was a handful on the street ... over cammed if you will.

    For basic mods... try a dual or tri power induction system. They're common and people still produce them new. I would suggest the Holley 1904 glass bowl carbs for aesthetics and a little boost in performance. Don't go too crazy with the cam either. Being in a truck, i'd say go with what is commonly referred to as a "towing" or "RV" grind. Something like a 264 cam would be nice for that truck. Do some basic porting and polishing on the exhaust side, with a nice long tube header flowing through a Flowmaster 40, and you've got yourself a nicer revving, great sounding little engine.

    As for them being bullet proof. YEAH THEY ARE. Sure you'll blow it's guts out with a huge shot of nitrous or blowing 30 pounds of boost through it. Keep it simple and fun, and i'll guarantee you, you'll be happy. If you ever want to race that thing competitively... step it up to a V8. For now, just have fun with the 6.

    People have more happy stories with inline sixes than any other engine i've ever encountered. Yeah it's not scientific... but it still says something to me.

    -Chris
     
  13. Lizard
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    I put a ballancer from a 292 on mine from rock auto $75 just because it was a better ballancer than the original. Did have 1/4" machined off the snout to make the belt groove match the water pump.
    Good luck and by the way those things make a lot of torque:~)
     
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  14. dawg
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    I bought a cam off fleebay, that says McGurk 3/4 race on it, I was wanting to run it in the 55 235 truck engine in my modified. The cam is for the 216 and 235, up to 53. Anyone know if someone has ever machined bearings for such a swap, or if it would be possible? Seems like you could just turn some out of brass or bronze on a lathe? So far I have a Clifford 4brl intake with Holley 390, and a set of Fenton cast headers, the cam would kinda finish out the combination? Any clue as to what springs to run? Any suggestions for a distributor? TIA...
     
  15. CJ Steak
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    I think that 3/4 cam would be a great way to round out the other mods you've done. Unfortunately without having the specs in front of me, I can't really recommend a valve spring pressure or anything like that. Most old school cams advertised as a 3/4 cam didn't have any valve to piston interference as long as you're using a stock piston. You can more than likely run a stock valve spring but you may get valve float over about the 5500 RPM mark... especially if you're running the old springs.

    In way of a distributor... I think running the stock one would look really nice... maybe consider using a Petronix Ignitor in it and running an additional spark box hidden somewhere in the engine compartment so nothing looks "too modern". That's what i'd do atleast.

    Do some research and get the specs on the cam if possible you'll save yourself a lot of guess work. I would think that if you dropped the cam off at a competent shop, they could do the measuring and get you some basic specs for a fee.

    Good luck,

    -Chris
     
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  16. junkyardjeff
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    If you want to really drive it a T-5 or taller gears in the rear end will help a bunch.
     
  17. brookwood
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    if your looking for info and speed parts give PATRICKS in arizonia a try, also CHEVY OF THE FORTIES is another good one!!!! good luck!!
     
  18. CJ Steak
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  19. dawg
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    yea, I'm running a T5 from a v6 firebird and a mustang rear with a 3.73 gear and a 29" tire...
     
  20. boldventure
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    CJ Steak- Chris,
    If nobody else mentions it, your spot on answers in this thread are what makes the HAMB the HAMB.
    Flamers to one side you and the many other actually helpful guys are the best...long live the HAMB....:cool:
     
  21. Carguy365-24-7
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    I'm not sure ,I just saw it in the new
    street rodder magazine under new products....
     
  22. 6inarow
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    BHJ Dynamics and I teamed up to make this for the stroker. Went great until that dink Frohmader pulled the rug out. So we finished it and BHJ produces it today. I got a call about a year ago when Vintage Air wanted to make a couple modifications. I am happy to have my name associated with it

    Its a cool balancer, same size as an OEM single groove and really helps take the vibrations out of a long crank. I don't think I'll ever do another 235 without one even if I only use 1 groove. I think its that good of a deal
     
  23. Kustom7777
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    split the manifold and run dual straight pipes,,,,6's have a sound all their own!
     

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