are there any how too's on this ??? kits ect ect i wanna do this quick and h***le free I will be using a c4 and a rear end out of a versilles I will also need a disk brake front kit cause the lincoln has rear disks
CAN I HAVE YOUR FLATHEAD WHEN IT COMES OUT??? It will go to a good home and will be well taken care of!!
Call Jamco Suspensions 707-544-4950 they have a disc brake conversion for the front. They might also have a engine kit. http://www.jamcosuspension.com/pages/1/index.htm
[ QUOTE ] are there any how too's on this ??? kits ect ect i wanna do this quick and h***le free [/ QUOTE ] Kits? Uh, other than motor mounts, you're on your own. Is your 302 complete? (I mean, did you get a running engine and trans?) I put a crate 302 in my '51 with a T-5...pain in the ***. If you've still got stock front suspension, you might have some major issues with exhaust. Just run zoomies straight out the hood...
Look on www.shoeboxford.com I remember there being a how to on this making your own mounts and stuff. You need a certain oil pan to clear the steering and certain manifolds to clear the steering. I believe both can be gotten from a mustang....
yeah, oil pan comes from certain year bronco's, mustang's, and crown vics. I think a front sump? or a dual sump pan is what ya would need. Dual sump is the easiest to find...
Also 351W Couger oil pans and exaust manifolds should fit. I used a couger oil pan when droping a 302 in my 55 ford.
you can get that oil pan set up from every bronco 4x4 parts cataloge, not the cheapest due to the fact that the 4x4 guys need them to swap 351w and 302 into early broncos, the kits come up on ebay quit a bit, make sure you get the kit due to the fact that you need a different pick up which has a different double sided bearing bolt. You can kind of see it in this pic.
oh yeah, i was thinking the rear sump ****ed with the steering, but's it the sbc in a shoebox swap that does that i thin....getting confused. Can't find my shoebox ford book right now.....
www.rodncustom.com has the motormount kit. Even comes with the ****** mount. You may need to modify the tunnel. Also its a dual sump like everyone else mentioned.
funny, when I tried a dual sump pan in a freinds 51 shoebox, it hit landed right on the drag link and we ended up using the rear sump with the relocated pick-up and went off aces...ya sure about that dual sump thing big guy?
I just helped Ruttencutter with this very conversion(302/C4 into a shoebox) in the past month. It's really easy to do. It was almost a drop in conversion(sorta). We used a stock late mustang dual sump pan, it clears the crossmember by an inch, and the drag link fits nicely betwen the oil pan and bellhousing. No problems with oil filter clearance at all. You will have to notch the trans crossmember and fab a trans mount and motor mounts, but that's no big deal. With factory rear dump exhaust manifolds, exhause clearance isn't an issue either. The motor fits in the car like it is supposed to be there. PM me or Ruttencutter for details or pics. -Jeff
My 51 has a rear sump in it and the motor mount kit came from Butches Rod shop. I think it was about $100 for the motor mounts and the trans mount.They have bolt in and weld in kits. TP
Helped ruttencutter with his shoebox retrofit and with the right oil pan and throttle pedal ***embly the installation goes pretty smooth! We fabbed up some angle iron for the motor mounts and flat bar stock used for the ****** mount...! Have fun...! Mark
Opie's Hot Rod Parts, took over when Butch's Rod Shop sold. Has kit with motor & ****** mounts. 937 704 0956 ****** mount adapter $30, Motor mount kit bolt in $105, weld in $95.
I think everyone else covered the main points. I was lucky and scored this 68 Bronco 302, so didn't have to worry about finding an oil pan. I got my motor/trans mounts from Hot Rod et Custom supply in FL 800-741-4687/rodncustom.com Mounts worked great and very easy install. Rewired to 12 volt with EZ wiring kit, pretty straight forward but I did have a buddy of mine who's an electrical engineer help me. The only bummer with the Bronco oil pan is the dip stick in front mounted and gives an inaccurate reading. Just have to change the oil more frequent and keep a close eye on your oil gauge. Here's a pic of the finished product...good luck.
We had Scott's car running is a week. We would have had it driving, but our supposedly good trans was bad, and because ****** no worky, car no movey -Jeff
Hey Slazzen what year is the engine you are installing? I ask this to be sure all the details are correct and your swap is as easy as possible. This swap is not difficult but you should at least check out the `80's -`90's style F150 oil pan. It is a rear sump single drain design with a notch at the rear that provides clearance for the steering linkage. They are easy to get used or you can buy new at a Ford dealer part # F6TZ-6675-MA(pan), EOTZ-6622-A(pickup tube). You may have to relocate the dipstick, that is why I asked what year your engine is. If I can be of any help at all please e-mail me or call (727)856-4133. I'll be up late tonight watching the election returns, so feel free. Good luck!
I went to the shop and checked and my memory was correct,the F6TZ-MA pan would do fine for your application. It resembles the contours of the "mid-sump" pans that came stock on the Flattys in those cars. If your 302 is out of the `79 Versailles you will have to relocate the dipstick to the sump in the pan if you want correct oil level readings. Unfortunately your `79 block won't be drilled for the dipstick tube. Easiest solution.....take a stock Flathead stick, tube and mounting bung and simply mount it on the side of the new oil pan. Make sure it is mounted at the same heigth as it was on the Flatty oil pan. Add 5 qts. of oil and check the mark on the stick, adjust if necessary. I may be able to supply these parts if you don't have them. Don't forget to get a C6TZ-6345-A main stud to support the longer pick-up tube.
[ QUOTE ] Also 351W Couger oil pans and exaust manifolds should fit. I used a couger oil pan when droping a 302 in my 55 ford. [/ QUOTE ] 351W oil pan will not fit 302. Exhaust manifolds will. Early Econoline oil pans are more of a center hump & are really ideal, though hard to find. The dual sump (sometimes called rear sump) works well enough. Looks like you got the right info - a quick search of the archives should turn up some good info too - we had this discussion a month or two ago.
i did look in the techomatic before posting thinking that for sure this would be covered but nothing and i have never had much luck with our search engine does any one have a link to it ?? as i think i am coverd but I would like to see that thread also
Just so you know, the F6TZ-MA pan I'm speaking about fits E150- E350 and F150- F350 from `82- `96 when equipped with a 302 engine. There are literally millions of them out there.
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