Hey Mikey, I think you stuttered and started two threads a minute apart. I wonder if that is the frame that Laddie Segrest had under his house in Waco in the 70's? <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">
The reason the frame doesn't have a number is because it's a Ford replacement. How would Ford stamp a number on a replacement frame...that would be done by a Dealer, AFTER he had a car to put it in...
Correct. On the new car ***embly line, when the motor was ***igned to the frame, the motor number was stamped on the frame. Quite a moot point, but even if it were it's somewhere around seventy years old and would have rusted in it's first thirty years of life because (then) it would have been stored outside, because after all it's a car frame for 'crissakes. Nobody in their right mind would have taken the time to bring it in out of the rain...................
if its the one in the EBAY link that sure appears to be a NOS frame to me. a gentleman in town has a 40's NOS replacement frame. it does not have numbers stamped in for the same reason people already said. he still have the paperwork for it and it says "service Replacement Part....#####)" I purchased a motor for a NOS motor case for a 750 honda that was the same way, the motor number (honda motor numbers did not match the frame numbers) was blank, NOT SCRATCHED OFF,,, JUST BLANK. this was due to the fact that when the engine case was replaced by the dealer it was restamped with the original number. I also got the number stamping kit from the dealership that the motor came from.
At the very least, that frame has been blasted, either soda or media. You can see places where the blaster missed (common on all blasting jobs), and you can see a couple places in the pics where there are rust pits that are clean. As said, there are also grommets, and marks for the steering box, though someone might have mocked it up at one point and that accounts for the steering box. I can't tell in the pics, but are the frame horns intact? -Brad
Just went and looked at my frames ALL my steering box holes are round....not ovals....and all of my stuff has been drivin.... Not sure if that discredits this as NOT NOS..... And Dont really care....its a super nice piece I would like to have..... But my guess is, in about five minutes.... At least two self righteous HAMBrs....who have no knowledge of 32 junk will report him....just because they read it here....
Not an expert by any means, I believe the oval holes were a running change much like the addition of inner stiffener plates for the rear shocks and may have had to do with the position of the steering box in trucks?
ya need to take the ebay link out of this thread, or it'll get closed and Zach Suhr can tell you that some later frames came from Ford with elongated steering box holes, because the truck cowls were shorter, and they didn't want to have to make 2 different frames
I never can understand paying a super premium for "NOS" parts if you plan on using them. The only real reason is to boast about your wallet. Once you bolt a body on it, it just becomes an excellent used frame. Still valuable but the "NOS" aura is lost forever and the "perceived" extra value goes out the window with it. If anyone is looking for a super nice used frame with the original hot rod steering and suspension already collected. PM me.
Some of you guys are misinterpreting the term, NOS, anyhow. Sellers of NOS parts twist the definition around to fit their needs. http://www.cl***iccarpartsgiant.com/cl***icpartsnos.html http://www.allbusiness.com/glossaries/nos/4951694-1.html http://www.oldbuickparts.com/nos/48parts.htm NEW OLD STOCK; 'Old stock' implies of original manufacturer. 'New' implies the present condition. The allbusiness glossary in above links says, "in original packaging." An old car frame that was rusted and media blasted is not, in any stretch of my imagination, in new condition.
The holes: Pickups and commercials had to have a steeper angle on steering column than p***enger cars...early in the year, there were 2 different sector housings with mounting ear holes placed differently to get the two different angles. Later in the year Ford discontinued one of the sector housings and just slotted the frame holes to allow the needed range of angles...someone bright figgeredout a way to drop an unnecessary part from the system!
GREAT INFO!!!!!! After reading these 32 books its damn near impossible to rule much out as not being possible... Alot of recalls and changes occured in a very short period.... and there seems to be many combos.....and specific applications.... am now putting a sock in it.....
Most of the changes in '32 frames were very early in the production year and so the odd stuff is scarce. Round holes, though, are fairly common. In general, though, if the available books show three versions of a '32 part, yours will be the fourth...
Not NOS, but certainly a keeper!! It is very nice but I don't see how the guy can pretend it's new. I'd rather have it than an NOS one, for reasons Tommy pointed out...a real NOS one would have to go on a velvet pedestal and be worsipped forever, utterly useless!
way back when...when there were a reasonable amount of true NOS stuff still showing up, I thought that NOS stood for never off shelf. Meaning that it was never installed on a car and spent all those years in the parts department on a shelf. But I had brown hair then so I couldn't have been too bright.
A lot of NOS stuff still around is not perfect as well. I think that's why it was never used because of a flaw and tossed aside. It's a nice frame but don't think it was never used with the marking on the steering box area and and
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