What is this restraint from? Military? Other?

I've got a pile of Simpson belts from my dirt cars (every five years, out with the old, in with the new, and rewebs cost within about $15 of what a whole new set does), and every one of them has the leather attached to the latch side of the lap belt (female end).

If you want to save the hardware, send them to Simpson, Impact, or Deist and let them reweb them.

I would not use them for anything but show unless I knew for sure how old the webbing was, and how it was treated over that span.

 

Looks an awful lot like the "door Open" or gunner's belts we used to use in the Navy on Helos. Also reminds me of the "jump seat" or removable seat belts from the SH-60, also.

 

same thing we used in C123s...other USAF aircraft (props). Look into any vintage Shelby roadster and that's what you'll see.

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Thanks again everyone! Not sure if they'll be a perminant fixture in the car, but I'm going to run them for a little bit until I figure out exactly what "needs to be" in the car.

The webbing itself just looks UV faded. I can't imagine the belts themselves failing. This is some serious webbing. I wouldn't be racing with it and really I'd be more concerned about the hardware than anything. Realisitically, if I'm in an accident in my Model A and these fail, I was probably destined for dead anyway. Either way, I'll probably media blast the mounting brackets, polish them, and inspect them for voids, cracks, etc. I could even do a fail test with the fork lift here at the shop. I'm guessing they will need to withsand about 1000 or 1500 pounds as a complete harness system (belt and shoulders). That would put about 375 pounds at each mounting point. I could test that around here no problem.

I would still love it if someone came forward and said "HEY! I used to have some navy blue latch-link belts and they were out of a _________". But it sounds like these specifically were probably used in a NAVY or Air Force application. ORRR... they could have just been used for something else and dyed navy blue. HAHA!

Chris.... what were those dates??

Here's the pair. Notice the OTHER one has the longer "male" end. Just noticed that. The mounting bracket on male belt side is also MUCH beefier and looks just like the male end on the black Simpson belt. Glad it could only get more confusing now. Some mis-matched components here, obviously.

 

...I spent alot of time riding in a Huey and never knew that they had seat belts, no wait, you say they had seats...?


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Go see and ask to tour Deist. They will Identify and even help you along in re-web for very resonable cost.

Jim Deist (RIP) was the best and a, the last pioneer in the business.

The duck bill latch (posted on both belts) was and is still one of, if not the safest style out there. And if you ever called to order new stuff that was the one that was they told you, you were getting unless you protested highly, then you got the speech, then you got your duck bill latched belts. LOL.

I have seen Deist products save many people over the years and fortunatly was lucky enough to meet and learn a little from the man behind the company. Jim was great people and poured his life into what he did. Priced a little more but worth every penny.

And almost every stunt person in the world beats feet to Deist Safety. Look closely at vehicles belts, harnesses, and fire suits and you see the logo.

My fire suit still passes cert testing after 20 plus years and might could go one more round.

And rest assured he left his knowledge behind for his son.

There is a good reading book there somewhere if someone took the time to write it.

 

Couldn't agree with you more! GREAT product!! I had planned from day one to purchase belts from them. They SCREAM quality! Just ran across these in the interum. I don't think I would ever have them rewebbed. I would just buy new and be done with it.

 

Hey, just for giggles, I hooked some Y-shoulder harnesses up to the belt with the shorter latch-link assembly. Works fine with room to spare.

 

The belt that has the leather strap as part of the latch, looks like the crew seat lap belts used in E-3 aircraft, and some -130 and -135 variants. The other belt doesn't look familiar, though I'm sure it's likely military, as well.

 

The black one has an SFI approval tag stitched into it, although the guy who originally owned it had several airplanes.