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running halibrands backwards....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brandon, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. brandon
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    what is the trick and what has to be done to the wheels to run them backwards?
     
  2. aussiesteve
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    turn them around,bolt them on
     
  3. brandon
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    a little easier said than done....:D
     
  4. 61bone
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    Depress clutch, engage transmission reverse gear, raise
    rpm to a uncomfortable range and slip foot off side of clutch pedal
     
  5. brandon
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    not a trick question.......:rolleyes:
     
  6. speedtool
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    Perhaps it's your phrasing?
     
  7. neonloverrob
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    I guess I'm uninformed as to why the hell would you want to??? Never heard of such a thing.
     
  8. Tony
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    It was done 'back in the day' and many times after. They actually look pretty cool on the right car.
    Sorry i have no idea what has to be done to them though.
     
  9. ProEnfo
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    Before the days of 1-800-buy-a-wheel it was used as a way to change the offset..
     
  10. Brandon, I ***ume you mean the old solids? I've seen old 6 pin ones run with simple sprint car wheel spacers to give enough clearance for drums or calipers. I'm not really keen on plain spacers - what about the wheel "adapters" that have the same bolt circle on the studs and holes - a more secure way of spacing a wheel. These are available all over the internet in virtually any thickness, bolt pattern and stud size.

    Steve
     
  11. B.A.KING
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    in l'ville this year in the builders showcase,out in the lobby there was a car with pretty cool looking set of wheels on it.one off's it looked like. can't remeber which one it was,cause i have had a drink or2 and slept some.but any who the wheels were halibrands,bolted on backwards/backside out.now whether you could drive em like that or not is a different story. is that what he may be talking about?
     
  12. brandon
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    actually a set of small windows....it appeared to be fairly common back in the day. like chuck mentioned before the 1800 stuff and 15 offsets per wheel design. ivo's t and the bill rolland (?sp) t , the california kid before it was famous, and a bunch of a/fx and early funnys. i had thught about using a wheel adapter , but wasn't real hip to the center looking like it was 3" thick:rolleyes:...i've only seen a few pairs of rears that were actually machined , possibly for this appplication. i'd guess a lot more people are familiar with the backside of these wheels and don't even know they were put on backwards:eek:
     
  13. long island vic
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    as don garlits..bruce larsons chevelle has them that way
     
  14. Pics? Love to see what they look like.
     
  15. shmoozo
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    Yeah, what he said! Pics would be appreciated.

    :)
     
  16. the-rodster
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    There was a red 32 coupe in one of mags just recently sporting reversed halibrands.

    I believe it was the cover of street rodder, maybe, can't remember.

    Rich
     
  17. 4Door54
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    i wanna see piccsss.
     
  18. Ebbsspeed
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  19. stan292
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    My recollection wasn't that reversing was ever done for appearance, but to draw the tires in towards the ch***is (with maximum negative offset) when fender clearance was tight - or impossible. It was always on race cars though. I don't ever recall seeing it done on a street car.

    It was also done on dragsters. I specifically remember "Sneaky Pete" Robinson doing it on the red digger he had with a jet fighter-style nosepiece. Again, he wanted to pull the tires in toward the car as far as possible to reduce rear tread width (and therefore improve stability).

    Make sure things are flush and square against the hub when the wheel is bolted on. Lots of the solid (kidney bean) wheels will mount "backwards" pretty easily - since virtually all of them use sleeved lugnuts. You may need a minimum of machining to ***ure a smooth, flat mounting face. Just use common sense.
     
  20. brandon
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    here ya go.......these wheels reverse will push the track width out ....but i just thought they looked cool:D
     

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  21. chickenridgerods
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    All I've got to say is if you have a pair, don't go about machining them just so they'll fit inside out. Would be a shame to ruin a perfectly good set.
     
  22. ProEnfo
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    Not a Halibrand, but here's a reversed 'slot' used to tuck the tires in...

    CC
     

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  23. SHANTZ
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    http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/0907sr_1932_ford_3_window/index.html

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  24. NealinCA
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    This is the first car that came to mind...

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    Seemed to be pretty common deal on the front.

    Neal
     
  25. I don't believe there has been any machining done, just turn em around and bolt em on. I like smooth side out myself....

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  26. Fogger
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    The most recent car with reversed wheels was the 3W Shantz posted above. The car is a chopped Brookville built by Hot Rod Haven in Albuquerque. An amazing hot rod with an Olds engine by Frank Brown, Mangus interior and a lot of innovative touches by the builders. Jamie Johnson and his dad Jim are very talented and yearly produce excellent cars and they're one of the best independent shops in the good ol' USA.
     
  27. claymore
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    Don't forget that if you do it your valve stems will be on the INSIDE making it hard to air them up.
     
  28. ChassisResearchKid
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    Jigg's Shamblin 1958.
     

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  29. brandon
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    they hit everything....:D drums hit on the rears and the calipers hit on the fronts....the ones you pictured must have something to them...as the snout on the spindle is way back in the center area.
     
  30. brandon
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    already had that fun with some reversed old ford wheels....major pita:D
     

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