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What's this yellow stuff holding my oil pan together?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Just Gary, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. Just Gary
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    My Hemi oil pan started as a center sump. A forward sump was added sometime in it's history. The addition was lapped over the original pan and glued(?) with some kind of yellow stuff. It's impervious to a propane torch so I don't think it's brazed. Is it epoxy, or what?

    Is there some way to remove it, short of cutting the whole thing apart?



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  2. WOW! Looks like some epoxy. Like JB Weld but wrong color.
     
  3. RAY With
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    Looks likr it was braized to me and looks like br***. You need motr heat that a little propane torch to melt it.
     
  4. 8-Track
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    It Lookslike it was Brazed to me,What does it look like when you grind it?
    I would look for anew oil pan.
     
  5. plym49
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    That's not braze is it? Just asking.
     
  6. skullhat
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    looks like br*** to me. either way, epoxy will break up with heat as well.

    get out the torch and a wire brush



    skull
     
  7. Big Dad
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    Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha

    kids today
     
  8. chevyshack
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    Looks kinda like liquid nail. Seen an episode of pimp my ride where someone took 2 halves of a ford ****** and welded the top but used liquid nail to glue the bottom side half together.
     
  9. winr
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    Lol........:D


    Scratch it with an awl or something, if it is br*** it will scratch and be shiny..well shiny br*** looking.:)

    Ricky.
     
  10. fab32
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    From the pictures it looks just like the brazed joints that have been used for years by bodymen who couldn't weld.

    Frank
     
  11. Big Dad
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    My big ol' belly hurts ... knock it off
     
  12. lostforawhile
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    braze,i've even seen some factory ones with braze holding them together.
     
  13. Just Gary
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    Thanks, guys!

    So what's the best way to remove the brazing? Heat? Twisted wire wheel on a 4 1/2" grinder? Other?
     
  14. Big Dad
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    You will have to cut off what you don't need / want and put new pieces in where they need to be or find another pan to work with

    Its bronze rod welded , instead of using steel for filler
     
  15. Sellers Equipped
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    Hey Gary you remove the Brazing, the lower section of the pan will fall off, looks like your pan was smashed at one time, and someone scabbed in another section for the repair. Find a new one or leave it alone. Map gas will melt the brazing
     
  16. dannyego
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    why not just get a new pan??
     
  17. crackerass54
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    why do you want to take it off? if it isnt leaking then leave it. that is not a sketchy way to do that, brazing is relitivly strong and I don't think you will have any issues with it and to be honest I kind of enjoy seeing some brazing around, adds caracter.
     
  18. captainjunk#2
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    its brazed if it was of a chemical composition it would have started to burn in some way shape or form
     
  19. Hotrod1932
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    Looks like **** to me...LOL
     
  20. plym49
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    Tell you what - now that you have sandblasted that pan there is grit and **** underneath that raw inner edge. Not the best and it can be really hard to get it all out - some will tend to remain and then free itself some time in the future after the motor is back together. The correct procedure would be to braze up the inside, too.

    Other than that there is nothing wrong with that pan.
     
  21. skunx1964
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    whats the oil capacity on that now? 8 or 9 quarts?
     
  22. lippy
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    Beat the edge down inside and braze it up. Nothing wrong with that pan. Coat of paint......down the road.:D
     
  23. von Dyck
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    If you manage to get the two pieces apart, you will not be able to fusion weld it back together where once it had been brazed. Leave it as is. Do a thorough clean-up and use it.
     
  24. Baby or calf **** yellow? :D
     
  25. edgeabilly
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    I say get a new pan.
     

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