Single stage industrial paint job? Looks good enough to me.

I contacted the seller of this car and asked about the paint job (and if he was a member here). This was his response.

I asked if I could post his car for a painting thread I want to open and he said "sure". I don't think he wanted to be identified though out of concern of retribution...which is kind of sad. If he wants, he'll post here.

For the record, I like it. Even the old "tornado" interior. It puts a smile on my face every time I look at it. Not (only) for what it is but also for what it is trying to say.

 

You have a great at***ude, and you seem willing to not only ask questions, but follow the advice being given to you. You will do fine...

The car in my avatar was also painted in my driveway and garage. You can do it.

 

rustoleum: roll it on. google it, lots of people doing it car craft did an issue i think last year where they painted a car that way. Going to do my 65 truck that way; my 41 I'll paint normally. the truck gets used and sits outside; it would break my heart to see it get mucked up really ba.

 

probably Polane tractor paint.

 

Man, I would be soooo proud if my first paint job came out 10% as good as your Muntz!

...and look! Here you are doing it...



That's cool and I can picture myself standing back and admiring it. I've done some things in my life recently that appeared to be impossible at first so I'll borrow some of that experience and apply it as a layer of "can do" before I start.

Thanks for the encouragement.

 

I have been experimenting with this and so far I am very impressed:

 

Thanks for the tread, it was very educational cause I'm trying to do the same thing. I want to do it,I want it simple and I want it to look good. Thanks.

 

Ever since an old Rolls Royce mechanic told me that they used to paint their cars with a brush then finish them off (with sanding and polishing) as normal. I would so like to produce a paint job that way and have it come out so good that people won't believe it was applied by a paint brush. This would not be about finding the cheapest and easiest way of painting a car but would be about actually doing a nice job with a brush and hand sanding. Lots of work but if it came out ok it'd be cool.

I've waited a long time to get to this stage in my life (building my own Deuce) and if I could turn out something different as well as cool would be an unexpected bonus.

 

How are you applying it? Has it been applied to your avatar car?

I've been swayed a little by the comment earlier about being able to sand back and fix a run or repair so Lacquer seems like the way to go. I can picture myself wanting to do it properly though the fast easy "good enough for a proud driver" is still fascinating. Just a little short on skill and clues but that's improving with each reply to this thread.

 

Rolls did a lot of stuff in prehistoric horse and buggy cottage industry ways and parlayed that into a mythology about how good their cars are (contrary to reality).

Then there's the Rolls dealer in Sydney that used to have to respray nearly 50% of their new deliveries. I wouldn't use Rolls as a standard for anything. Sorry sore point.

 

****in hell, pm me and I'll give you my phone number.

 

lol. I was wondering how long that was going to take!

 

I was also after the "AGED" look when it came time to put some color on the car...I didn't want flat...nor gloss..wanted something with some sheen to it, but also did not want it to look like it was just painted either. I did the needed rust repair (welded in new cowl bottoms, repaired lower door skins w/new metal)...and did hardly any other bodywork to the car. Car has dings, creases, grinder marks..ect. It was the look I wanted. The body looks as if it was hidden in a barn for the past 40 years. Paint looks dull/faded, had the above mentioned dings and stuff as if items have been piled on it without any concern for the car....ect...Just the look I was after.

So I knew the type of look of the paint that I wanted...deciding on the color took a while!!! I wanted something of an ERA color..but a little different than the standard Black and reds we see so many of. My custom mix yeilded me a very dark burgundy type color that fit the car just right ( for me anyways!).

It is painted with RUSTOLEUM oil based paint..It is my own mix of using FLAT BLACK and GLOSS RED...Added some hardener and thinned it with some acetone. Shot it at 35 psi thru my old Binks siphon feed gun.

Semi gloss luster, hard as a rock!

Total cost for paint, Hardener and Acetone....$34.00! Shot it in my driveway

 

That looks spot on! Thanks for that. Very interesting.

 

Does the roof look lopsided to anyone else?

 

Yeah Zman it does.

Look at pictures of GV Gordons Touring. That was sprayed with PPG Urotech Indutrial SS URETHANE. It has some rub out and has good gloss. Rub out the paint and let the years of fun give you your TRUE patina, not something fake.

 

I'm thinking (hoping) it's the crown in the road.

 

The right side tires are parked right in the rain gutter recess in the road..I'n sure that explains the "LEAN"

 

It is not thepaint on my avatar car, but it will be.

I have used it on things like p/u truck beds to get the feel for it. It likes to be brushed on. It also likes a tiny bit of reduction. You should ba able to brush or spray it no problem. It cures slowly and I have not tried adding hardeners. But when it cures (day or two) it is very resilient.

I would recommend that you brush lacquer. You can thin it down and as long as you are OK with a lot of coats plus some rubbing out, you can achieve a fantastic paint job that retains that indescribable vintage patina.

I have seen carriages (think of a hot rod with a horse) - clodes cabs, windows, really luxurious - and they were brushed on lacquer and the finish is impeccable, and probably just what you are looking for.

 

The right rear is in a dip in the road. The front suspension has articulated and that 's why your visual frame of reference is off - the front wheels look 'square' but in reality the rest of the car is and the front axle is at an angle.

 

Did a single stage paint job on my car. The car looks better than it did. The paint job could look a lot better but there is satisfaction of doing it your self. I now understand the importance of prep. This was done with the NAPA house brand of paint.



I only really learn by doing.

Rich

 

Imron is still available......

 

Your single stage is just commercial Enamel paint. Tractor supply's have it. We use to use it back in the 60's to paint cars. It was that or Lacquer. $39.00 a gallon and 25% reducer away you go. Be careful though it takes longer to tack up between coats. Don't put the next on until it almost touch dry. 10 - 20 minutes or more depending how warm it is. I remember painting my buddys D/Gas cars as a teenager. It was 32 Deg. f. It took about 2 hours to tack off and then it ran from the front bumper to the rear bumper. (Run!!,that was no run that was a curtain) Ah the joy's of youth.

Keep having fun, that's what it's about.

The Old Tinbasher

 

You're a man of few words, obvious from your Profile.......... I've tried, cant get Imron. Do you have a source?

 

Thanks guys, some good advice and I'm starting to get excited about doing this. I'm probably going to do as good a job as I can after taking everything into account. This comment just had me nodding...

You're right - of course - but my aim wasn't really to trick anyone (there's very few people in my town who would care what my paint looked like anyway - this car is for me only) it was more to get a certain "not too shiny" but still "doing it's best" kind of look. Sort of like an older car. But as Tman suggests...start your own history and let real time do it's thing.

You guys (along with the many many PMs I've received encouraging me with stories, facts and methods. This thread will help others too I'm sure.

I'd still like to try a test panel with brush. I just want to see how could it can get without all the machinery (which I may not have had in 1964). I guess most rodders did what they could to borrow or rent a compressor back then orjust...saved up like everyone else.

Slightly off topic:
Is it just me or is this planning thinking stage a LOT of fun? I'm having a ball doing just the research. Fortunately, I just sold a gl*** coupe (to move in with you guys...lol) so I'm full of hot rod driving experiences for the moment and can put some patience into thinking carefully about this build.

 

I just painted my truck in single stage. Single stage carries the color on the surface, not below coats of clear. The colors look a bit more vibrant to me. They hold up well, too. I'm no paint expert by a long shot but base/clear is overrated in my book.

 

i painted my truck with a spray can, found it at walmart. its called satin jade. i have about 2weeks of prep work and about an hour of paint. total cost was about $40 dollars. after i painted it i wet sanded it and buffed it out. not everyones style but i like it and people think it factory haha, if they only knew

 

That's cool!

Keep the "thrifty-but-looks-good" paint stories coming. Rattle cans, brush, tiny compressors... If they came out looking good and cost very little money I want to hear about it. This isn't about money specifically though. I'm ok and I could easily drive it into a workshop and pick it up finished but money can't buy style or achievement leading to satisfaction borne of adversity. My adversity is lack of skill and experience. But I realise it's only a cloud...not a brick wall. I'll get this, I'll do this and if I get one thumb up I'll be happy - even if it's my own.

That's where the real joy is...as many know and mention...it's about being resourceful and having a go and learning as you go and spending time not money (e.g. prep and sanding and sanding and sanding and sanding). Posting your hints, tips, experiences and the odd slap across the back of my head to keep me steered straight (lol).

 

When I was a kid, my mom and aunt painted a car using a Kirby vacuum cleaner that had a paint gun attachment. If they'd mask it off better, it coulda' been a 10 footer.