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Chassis ground/ starting problems, please help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Christopher26, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Christopher26
    Joined: Feb 15, 2009
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    Christopher26
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    Hello everybody, I am having a little problem I just finished the rebuild of my chevy 235, and when I went to start it it would try to turn once and then stop, then when I turn it over again it just makes a click and nothing at all, its a new starter, an the same one I used before so I am thinking its not grounding, but I have the same bolts in it as before, also I have continuity from the neg on the battery to the block, and I have 13 + out of the battery and the cable is good to the starter I grounded the block from the bellhousing to the motor mount on the frame and it still happened, any advise would be great, also how do you check for amperage to the starter? Thanks in advance
     
  2. hotrod-Linkin
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
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    ground the body to the frame and frame to engine.
     
  3. theHIGHLANDER
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    Can you turn the motor over by hand? Is it stuck or tight? Is the new starter a good one for sure? How's the mount to the engine for the stater? Put the grounding ***ist cable to the starter housing and try it to check that.
     
  4. vtwhead
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    Hmmm, fresh motor. If it was me, I guess I would pull all the plugs and try the starter again to see if it turns the engine over freely. Just to rule out the engine reciprocating ***embly.
    And then I have seen batteries that look good and show good voltage but **** the bed as soon as a load is put on them. Could take the battery out and have it tested somewhere with a load to rule it out or in.
    I would get the frame and the engine and the battery grounds checked to make sure they have good continuity.
    Hope this helps.
     
  5. Christopher26
    Joined: Feb 15, 2009
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    well the starter and battery have been used daily until I pulled the motor which was about a mointh ago I use a heavy duty truck battery and I can turn the motor by hand, I am thinking its just a matter of a bad ground but I might be overlooking something basic
     
  6. loburban
    Joined: Mar 24, 2008
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    Ground everything, then try it
     
  7. sixdogs
    Joined: Oct 11, 2007
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    Almost all of these odd problems are bad grounds. Do the frame to engine and use the starter bolt for the ground. Use inside star washers on everything and try again. This can be frustrating but do a good job.
     
  8. crs36
    Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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    from Alberta

    Might want to check the battery cables, if the post connectors are the clamp to wire style you might not have good flow to the starter, there may even be paint under the clamp, happened to me. Also check the connection's for clean and tight. I've just pushed the cable ends hand tight onto the battery and had the same problem.
     
  9. Limey Steve
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
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    Limey Steve
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    I had a simillar deal on my shop truck 73 Chevy , it turned out it was the store bought "molded " battery cable (+) looked great was was no good. I cut off the terminal, stripped the wire made a loop & bolted it to the battery terminal bolt & it got me started. Never ***ume anything *** & u & me comes to mind !
     
  10. 50dodge4x4
    Joined: Aug 7, 2004
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    Did you paint your fresh motor? For the electrical ground to work properly, the ground has to be a metal to metal contact, not a metal to fresh paint contact. Also, the starter grounds through the bolts and housing, paint, oil, and dirt can cause problems with the starter ground also. Those star washers are intended to cut through the paint to get a metal to metal contact, but if there is too much paint, they may not be able to reach the metal.

    The battery ground should go from the battery post to the engine block, and from the battery post to the body and frame. The big wire goes to the block, and at least a #10 to the body and another #10 to the frame. I also run a #10 ground loop to every electrical componet and a #16 ground wire to all the lights. I generally don't have many electrical issues. Gene
     

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