Finally Swapping T5 tailshaft

We have finally came up with another t5 trans out of an s-10, it is a 85, std, our camaro was an 89 WC. I got the main shaft out of the s-10 and tonight i got the gears off, prolly not the proper way but hey i got them off. I left only the 3 4 sync block on there i am assuming that they are the same on both mainshafts anybody know for sure?? maybe this week or this weekend i can pull the mainshaft out of the other one and swap the gears. i will try to get some pics up of the frame and motor and trans when we get the swap done.

 

Just about everything you want to know about S10-WC swaps in the Tech section, even pic by pic for immpatient folks like me who refuse to read directions

 

All you have to do is swap the top plate & tailshaft.

Gear swapping isn't necessary.

JH

 

Ditto...but keep the funnel with the tail shaft

 

what about the bearing and race?? do i discard of it i noticed that on the NWC it had a big washer on the countershaft for the bearing to run on and the WC did not have that big end for the washer so i am assuming you do away with it??

 

You can't mix NWC and WC internal parts. If you want to swap to an S10 tailshaft on your '89 Camaro WC, you need a '93 or newer S10 tailshaft because that's when they started using WC units in S10's.
You can use the '85 tailhousing, top plate assembly, oil funnel and speedo parts, though...

I've gone over this before....

 

so the mainshaft is not the same?? can i not just swap the gears and syncros from the s10 to the camaro mainshaft?? the reason to change the mainshaft is the speedo is in the wrong place right. i am confused now.

 

I wonder how Webster defines confusion?

 

is there an s10 that had wc transmission?? what would the id number on the tag be??

 

I think Snarl already answered that question...

 

dang it bobby now i need a mainshaft in a bad way LOL

 

There is an easy way to put the speedo drive gear on your original trans so it aligns with the S10 tail.
You are only needing to swap the top plate and the tailshaft as said above.

 

Good question

 

You will know the WC S10 gearbox it has the Ford bolt pattern on it. Just 94 and 94 I believe

 

That should be 94 & 95

 

AGAIN, '93-up S10 4cyl were WC. Some early '93's still had the Chevy pattern, but most have the Ford pattern. They also used a 26 spline input shaft.


If you want to cluster fuck it, you can cobble/shim the Camaro shaft to use the S10 speedo position, but the correct way is to swap the tailshaft.
When using the '93-up S10 shaft and you want to use the cable driven speedo, you will want to drill a smaller blind hole in the shaft for the gear clip.

 

some more good info. click and save.

 

thanks for the info snarl. im gonna try to find a mainshaft now i guess i will use the tailhousing i have got now. even though it is nwc i can just change the oiling funnel and it will be good right.

 

I am going to hijack your thread for a second, I promise I'll let you have it back.

I have a WC Mustang trans that I'm going to do the swap on. I have a NWC AND a WC S-10 T-5. The second gear synchro is shot in the Mustang trans. I have very limited funds right now. Can I use the synchro from the S-10 WC trans in the Mustang WC trans? Is one tail housing better than the other NWC vs. WC? Both S-10 trans have electric speedos. One seems to just be a plug for the speedo (NWC) the other seems to be a sending unit for the electric speedo (WC). From what I understand, because of the way the hole in the housing lines up with the shaft, there is no way to convert to a gear driven speedo. Is this correct? I would like to have a working speedometer. Is there a way to make it work? Is it possible to pull parts from an S-10 to make it work with an S-10 speedo (that would be hidden and only visable when it is being used, or maybe disquised as the original speedo)?

 

Anyone??

 

Just did it last night..soooo easy. Click on this link, follow the pictures.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280529

 

johnboy13, you can take it away. LOL. that is a nice lookin 55 got anymore pics of it? it looks like its almost same color as mine

 

I have a WC Mustang trans that I'm going to do the swap on. I have a NWC AND a WC S-10 T-5. The second gear synchro is shot in the Mustang trans. I have very limited funds right now. Can I use the synchro from the S-10 WC trans in the Mustang WC trans?
Yes

Is one tail housing better than the other NWC vs. WC?
No

Both S-10 trans have electric speedos. One seems to just be a plug for the speedo (NWC) the other seems to be a sending unit for the electric speedo (WC). From what I understand, because of the way the hole in the housing lines up with the shaft, there is no way to convert to a gear driven speedo. Is this correct?
Correct

I would like to have a working speedometer. Is there a way to make it work? Is it possible to pull parts from an S-10 to make it work with an S-10 speedo (that would be hidden and only visable when it is being used, or maybe disquised as the original speedo)?
I would suggest taking a look at a shop manual for an S10. The wiring of the speedo involves the computer. the wires don't just go from the sender to the gauge. So no, I don't think what you're talking about will work.
You might consider this http://www.dragonaero.com/SpeedChangerMechanicalPage.htm

 

i found a transmission, it is a 94 s-10 wc it has electric speedo, i was curious as to how the tone wheel goes on the mainshaft, could i pull it off and put the gear on and use the old style tailhousing?? would that work??

 

Yeah, thats what I've been saying....

You will need to drill a smaller hole in the shaft for the gear clip also, like I was saying....

 

thanks snarl. i am hard headed sometimes. LOL. well most of the time.

 

i am also confused on the race and bearing for the overdrive cluster in the tailhousing. i know to change the flinger but seems like if you used the race and bearing with the wc trans it would cause interference and would not run right on that surface of the cluster gear shaft. ????????????

 

Did you find out what to do with the bearing and race? I have the same question.