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Is this guy crazy?...or is it worth it.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Vin-tin, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. joel torres
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    $1000 seems too steep but it is a business coupe that could be really bad*** if you tub the rear and slap a hemi up front
    as far as the rockers go every plymouth from this era has the same problem unless it lives in the rust free zone i should know i have owned 8 plymouths so far
    if you have to tools,money,time to start this car from scratch go for it i know if i liked 2 doors i would but im a more door kinda guy
     
  2. tubman
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    A wise man once told me that every legitimate dollar more you pay in the purchase price will come back 10 fold over the life of the project.:) After a few, I am beginning to believe him.:D
     
  3. I got my 1950 dodge in close to the same condition without a ***le for 300 bucks, a replacement ***le was only $80.... but then again I got a helluva deal. If you really like it and you want to build it 800 is fair.
     
  4. Vin-tin
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    Thanks everyone. Your answers are honest ones and pretty much what i'd been thinking. Sure these cars look great rodded and i do have a soft spot for them. But that just clouds my better judgment. This car just needs too much work (and money) to bring it back to life. I really didn't need another project anyway. But like all car guys, i always have my ears and eyes open. You never know what you'll find.
     
  5. Cruiser
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    Vin-tin<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4585379", true); </SCRIPT> - Under $500. would be OK, but face it there's a ton of work and missing parts. You could most likely find another coupe in better condition and be ahead of th game. :D

    CRUISER :cool:
     
  6. DMFB
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    I'm in no way trying to be a *****, but you keep going back....so you are interested. If it is THAT bad, that it isn't worth his ballpark, then why mess with it. I would say that a grand isn't bad.....7-800 is a steal (with it having a ***le). My .02
     

  7. Well that was brutal.... I guess its strictly tri-5 chevys and deuces for you.... Thats ok, leave the unique, off beat stuff for us poor folk.
     
  8. brumm
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    youll have thousands in it before you turn around....might not hurt to start with something less rough.....frame been sunk in the mud for years...does he have the ***le?
     
  9. ironandsteele
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    i'd love to have that car. i don't know that i'd pay a grand for it.... it is a coupe though.

    i don't know.
     
  10. SakowskiMotors
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    I stick with my first post to p*** and spend a little more.
    But if you want to do it for the fight of it, do it. As long as you know it is a bad financial move and have accepted that, but if the heart says drag it out, drag it out and save her. Have a little fun. Some people blow money on expensive vacations, some on Snap on tools :rolleyes:, and some messing with cars they shouldn't, but that saves another one.
    Have Fun
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  11. Seriously? What if the kid buys it and turns it into a really cool custom or g***er? What if he likes the style of the car? He wasn't asking if it was ugly or not. He was asking if the owner is asking too much for it. Get off your 3w soap box man. You think people only get googlely eyed for 3w coupes, chevys and fords? I will be the first to tell you I would walk past a 32 ford to see a flathead 6 in a 40s-50s mopar. We live in a free country and you can say what ever you want, but make sure its followed up with..."this is my opinion" because you don't speak for the rest of us.

    You only lose on a car as an investment if when you are selling it there isn't that one person looking for that car. Prices for cars are all over the places. A traditional built 32 will never fetch the change that the Foose/Boyd cars that go for 6 figures.

    For the record....

    Im sinking my money into a 53 Plymouth 2dr hardtop.....not because everyone said the car is cool....because I like the car.
     
  12. Antny
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    Well, that IS what a hot rod is supposed to be! Look at pics from the 50's....those kids had no money and built with whatever they could afford. :)
     
  13. ironandsteele
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    nice. that's a great car. any pics??
     
  14. first picture is when i first got it......

    second picture is along the lines of what I want to build.
     

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  15. George G
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    Times 2
     
  16. ironandsteele
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    awesome. i've always been a fan of 53-54 plymouths, with their subtle and understated lines. i've had a couple 4 doors, but never a 2 door or 2 door hardtop.

    sweet *** car for sure.
     
  17. Sacred Steel
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    I would check on the availability of replacement sheetmetal panels such as braces, rockers, floor pans, door bottoms, quarters. If these types of parts are available, I would go for it.
     
  18. Antny
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    They built whatever they could get their hands on.

    I guess all us Chevy guys should leave then? LOL. :)
     
  19. hyperfe
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    Maybe it is the presentation, get it out of the ground, blow the leaves off it, get the mice and who knows what else out of it, put it on the driveway or maybe in the garage and then is it worth a grand? Probably is, but now he wants two thousand.
     
  20. neonloverrob
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    Bad thing is, after you fix all the rusted, ****ed up, missing, broke and beat up ****, the stuff that looked really good at first looks like **** now! That car is rough, no doubt, but it's worth saving IF you have the place, time, skills, and parts source. Who cares what other people say or think, if you really like that car more than your money go for it!
     
  21. Johnny1290
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    Is it worth it? financially, hell no. nobody will pay much for a dodge, the end.

    If you like it so much the money isn't an issue, then go for it.

    I think they're cool looking personally, and I like that they're cheap and different, I just don't like them enough to sink a bunch of time and money into one. I'd have to love it to do that.
     
  22. I really like the '40s Mopars, especially the coupes, but they were notorious for the floor pans and trunk floors rusting out. Just about all cars from the mid-'30s through the '40s had rust issues in those areas, but it seems like the Mopars were worse about it. Those old Mopars rode and handled better than most cars of the era. There's one out at Yarbrough's Junkyard close to where I live that is too far gone to save, but the floors are better on it. If it wasn't so far from where you are, it would be a good parts car to cut patch panels and floor sections from.
     
  23. missysdad1
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    You couldn't get better advice if you paid for it. Keep looking... :)
     
  24. The37Kid
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    Whenever anyone mentions Plymouth I think of the Rock...........Happy Thanksgiving!:D
     
  25. Gasser 57
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    Is he crazy? I'd say yes. completely. It needs a TON of fabrication and body work and when you finish replacing the floors, rockers, door & 1/4 panel bottoms and lower fenders you'll be the proud owner of a not very desirable old Plymouth. Unless this is your dream body style, I'd p***.
     
  26. I Drag
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    Typical northest old-car dilemma. Yes, it is all there, but you will have to fix, restore, or repurchase new every piece on it.

    As a labor of love, go for it. If you are not a young person, p***.

    I'd pay $500. Having the ***le is worth another $150 to me.
     
  27. 29nash
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    Short a few bricks? Like a fox I'm thinkin':cool: Actually he already said he wouldn't sell the ***le alone for $200. A good ***le for a '48 mopar is worth at least $400................

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3wLarry
    And they didn't build Mopars, they built Fords...early Fords are what this site is all about...Quote:

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    Oh really?
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  28. joel torres
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    that dude said it was the ugliest cars
    they make the pacth panel for this car they are so simple anyone can make them
    as far as ch***is go if its rotten i have two ch***is or slap it on a new ch***is
    as far as value if your in this to build cars and flip em for profit no car will fetch you big dollars unless your doing qauilty shop work and who knows how much profit they actually make no car you build yourself is going to be foose value unless you put the money into it but if you do it cause you want a project and keep busy and take your time and plan that can look like this
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  29. Special Ed
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    You've been getting a lot of differing suggestions on here. Your first impulse of wondering if the guy was crazy speaks volumes. You already know the answer. I think you can do much, much better with a thousand dollar expenditure.
     
  30. RodStRace
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    George G and Missydad1, thanks. There are others out there, and they will be easier to do. Joel, that Black one is sweet! 3WLarry, I wonder how many agree with you but aren't strong enough to say it. I respect your opinion, and it does have some merit. Us Mopar guys are working a bit outside the common traditional arena. Some are bucks down and putting together the cheapest 40's ride they can. I tend to rant on those guys, because they also try to justify a 305 SBC. That's my bad. Some of us are mopar-centric and would rather do a 40s mopar than a similar fatty Chevy or Ford.
    If the entire world of Hot Rodding starts and ends with early 30s Fords and Tri-5 chevys for you, that's fine. They are the darlings of the mags and parts manufacturers. Obviously, they have their fans in great numbers. If money were no object, I'd like a 33 3 window too.
    But for the same money, I'd like my 40 done, a Mopar sedan delivery and probably have enough left over to build a garage to store them in. I'd be happier with my offbeat Mopars and the roof over them than one of the holy grail cars. Guess that's why we don't all drive the same thing in the same color.
     

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