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Marine Y-Block Ford In "A" Coupe

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 41 Dave, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. 41 Dave
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    Guys, I am looking for input . I am putting a Y-Block Marine Ford V-8 engine in my '31 "A" coupe. It has no provision for a water pump. It is a complete marine engine from the aluminum pan/front cover to intake with side draft cabrs. Would like your suggestions as to how to plumb the water lines to a electric or belt driven water pump. I caninclude photos of the engine if it would help. I would need someone to add them to this thread.

    Thanks

    41 Dave
     
  2. Paul2748
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    Can't you put a regular front cover and water pump on the block? I thought the blocks were all the same (maybe reverse rotation???)
     
  3. sdluck
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    Jegs sells a in line waterpump here is the linkhttp://www.stewartcomponents.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=ElectPump
     
  4. Henry Floored
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    Yes please include pics.
     
  5. yblock292
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    I put a regular Y-block in my coupe , streatched the frame 7 1/2 inches and kept the stock firewall.
     
  6. 41 Dave
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    Paul2748 - Yes I could put a stock front cover and pan on it. But, I would loose all the bits and pieces that make it a marine Y-Block. Want to keep as complete as possible.

    Could someone please help me with posting some pix of the motor ? PM me your e-mail and I will send them to you.

    41 Dave
     
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    here are the pics as promised...

    cool lookin mill, i can understand why you want to keep it as is! :cool:

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  9. 41 Dave
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    There you go guys, This is the motor as it came out of a cabin cruiser. The boat was built by Interceptor boats of Malvern Pa. The block is either a '57 292 or 312 (won't be able to tell until I pull the pan). The heads are '58 292. They also used a Mallory dual point distributor.

    Fiddy - Thanks so much for posting the pix !

    41 Dave
     
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  10. 41 Dave
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    Bringing this back to the top. Looking for ideas to make a stand alone water pump out of existing pump. The idea would be to make a housing for the belt driven pump to bolt to. My idea is to leave the generator on the right side and mount the water pump low on the left.

    Thoughts ?

    41 Dave
     
  11. rainh8r
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    A friend of mine is doing the same thing with the marine Y block in a model A. It all works with some thought and creativity. I saw that same setup on a magazine car a couple of years ago, so it should be on the net somewhere.
     
  12. 117harv
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    Hook the two water outlets at the top together and run a hose to an external thermostat housing/ radiator cap combo they sell them several places and do the same with the bottom water outlets but use a hemi or big block mopar water pump and fab a cup to enclose the impeler connect the two small hoses to the cup mount it to the frame or in front of the timing cover, with custom brackets ofcourse and run a radiator hose to the radiator, you can run a belt from the balancer to the pump and you wont have to worry about electrics or the electric pump going bad.
     
  13. RAY With
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    Northern freight sells a 12 volt electric pump as does WW Granger. I used them for years on race car applications and I imagine a pair on your motor would keep it all cool. There small amd dont draw a lot of amperage.One side I used a AN #12 fitting and the other I adapted a hose bib for ease of connecting to lower radiator connection. Its the white thing on lower right of motor plate,
     

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  14. daliant
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    I would check to see if that's a reverse rotation engine. Most marine engines spin "backwards" compaired to an automotive engine.
     
  15. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    It won't hurt the Marine theme to put a water pump style front cover on it. Right? If you did that one simple thing it would solve your problem.

    Kevin
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  16. RAY With
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    As a rule only if there twin screws then its not to much to change the crank and assorted pieces to convert a reverse rotation
     
  17. Tim Cowan
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    With a water supply tank in the trunk, you can run the wet exhaust and splatter the tailgater behind you. It may give a hot spray blast, and better than a windshield washer. I love the exhaust with a gurerilly sound.
     
  18. art.resi
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    Most marine engines for v drives used to run neovane water pumps
    off the front of the cam like the dizzy on a early flathead. Is there
    a cover that lines up with your cam on the front cover? Hard to tell
    from the photo.
     
  19. -Brent-
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    I wonder if the cam profile is different for these marine y-blocks? An old buddy of mine pulled a big block Chevy out of his boat and ran it in his OT car. It needed some conversion stuff like exhaust, water pump, etc., but that thing was a torque monster.

    Truthfully... I'd keep the marine stuff for a boat. I've heard those intakes don't work so well in street cars. Don't know how true that is but it's come from more than one source and not just internet gossip.
     
  20. 41 Dave
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    Brent, I agree with your comment. What I have may not be very practical. Just want to try to see how it might work.

    Guys, Thanks so much for the feedback you have given.

    41 Dave
     
  21. mgudge
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    Dave, I'd like to talk to you about how you adapted the '97's to the marine intake. Would you want to part with yours? Send me your number or call me at 503-622-3639 or email fordhavenzigzag@msn.com Thanks, Mike
     
  22. 41 Dave
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    mgudge, The Marine intake is not modified. It is running two Carter side draft carbs. They are similiar to what the six cylinder Corvettes ran.
     

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