I have an old race car in process of restoring. The tie rod ends and center link are huge, 3/4 inch threaded ends. What mid 60's applications (or earlier) should I check out to try to match them up? DO the spindles look familiar, or any of the brake parts? Better pics to follow
looks kind of like 60s Chevy stuff, but it's hard to tell...how about more clues, like the wheel bolt pattern, better shot of suspension without the shock blocking everything, take the wheel off before taking the picture, brake drum inside diamter, etc.
I flipped through all of my catalogs and saved scans, and I can't find anything 3/4-18. I fear that that particular size might have been lost to history. That outer tie rod end and the adjustment sleeve will be pretty easy to update to a "current" size. The inner will take tape measure, a picture, and some research. ***Ok never mind*** It appears that my coffee just kicked in. http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MOOG-ES383R http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MOOG-ES336L http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MOOG-ES424R http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MOOG-ES424L
any part numbers on any of it? what do the control arms look like? mid 60s lincoln looks kinda like that....uses 3/4-18 tie rod ends....
Did anyone build custom stuff for race cars back then? has a funny diamond shaped logo on the spindle, cna't quite make it out
sure looks like a production front suspension, old race cars usually used stuff from the junkyard (parts from cars from the previous 15 years). What size are the brakes (width/diameter), what numbers are on the wheel bearings, look for any and all numbers cast or stamped on any parts.
Control arms are modified GM a body. CUt and lengthened for camber, Frame mount raised one inch on left to turn the car. Reinforced on the back side with rebar welded on it. Had to be a real man to drive this....
here's the pic. Problem with info is that the car is in resto, 450 miles from me...Takes a bit for the guys to get info and pics back. I do appreciate all the help and info.
Hmm, I just rolled a '65 Continental in, it has (factory) discs, but I will have a look at the spindles.
JIm the lowers are production pieces welded up as well. spring pocket was plated, axle jacks installed...Wait a minute or two for pics....
Maybe someone just added heims to the swaybar and replaced the factory links?... I'm interested to know what's factory/race inspired.
Looks like Chevy pickup spindles and A arms to me. How did you measure the tie rod threads, could they be 11/16"?
Sent the drag link and tie rods to my suspension supplier (ESPO, they advertise in HEmmings a lot, great people, great prices) They measured it all up. We thought the upper ball joints were big chev, will get the particulars for you.
I just did a set of tapered bone mount bungs for a local guy with the same 3/4" ends in a set of 40 bones. We are also curious as to what they came from. The -18 thread pitch sounds like a ford ******* size. 3/4"-16 is the nft size. And the 3/4-18 sounds like Ford. They did the same with the 11/16-18 rod ends. Make sure to post what you find.
The '65 Lincoln stuff is very different. If it is Lincoln stuff it is pre-'65. The tie rod threads are indeed 3/4", but, unfortunately there is not a full inch showing to get the pitch, exactly. I did count 9 over 1/2" though, but my eyecrometer has not been calibrated recently. I back-cross-refferenced rockauto.com to the Moog catalog, and it confirms 3/4-18. The tie rod sleeves are 4-1/2". They are common with the ones below, so those could be donor tie-rods too: <table id="buyersguidetable"><tbody><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>ELECTRA 225</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>ELECTRA 225 CUSTOM</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>ESTATE WAGON</td><td>1970</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>GS</td><td>1970</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>GS 350</td><td>1969</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>GS 400</td><td>1969</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>GS 455</td><td>1970</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>LESABRE</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>LESABRE CUSTOM</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>SKYLARK</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>SKYLARK CUSTOM</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>SPECIAL</td><td>1969</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>SPORTWAGON</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>BUICK</td><td>WILDCAT</td><td>1969</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>BUICK</td><td>WILDCAT CUSTOM</td><td>(1969 - 1970)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>B100 VAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>B100 VAN SPORTSMAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>B200 VAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>B200 VAN MAXI</td><td>(1972 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>B200 VAN MAXI WAGON</td><td>(1972 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>B200 VAN SPORTSMAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>B300 VAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>B300 VAN MAXI</td><td>(1972 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>B300 VAN MAXI WAGON</td><td>(1972 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>B300 VAN SPORTSMAN</td><td>(1971 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>CB300</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>DODGE</td><td>D200 PICKUP</td><td>(1972 - 1978)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>DODGE</td><td>D300 PICKUP</td><td>(1972 - 1978)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>FORD</td><td>FALCON</td><td>(1964 - 1965)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>FORD</td><td>MUSTANG</td><td>(1965 - 1966)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>FORD</td><td>RANCHERO</td><td>(1964 - 1965)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>LINCOLN</td><td>CONTINENTAL</td><td>(1961 - 1969)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>MERCURY</td><td>COMET</td><td>1965</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>PLYMOUTH</td><td>PB100 VOYAGER</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>PLYMOUTH</td><td>PB200 VOYAGER</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>PLYMOUTH</td><td>PB200 VOYAGER EX WAGON</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part0"><td>PLYMOUTH</td><td>PB300 VOYAGER</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr><tr cl***="part1"><td>PLYMOUTH</td><td>PB300 VOYAGER EX WAGON</td><td>(1974 - 1975)</td></tr></tbody></table>
the chevy truck A arms from the drum brake days had metal bushings. the lower arm with the big and little bushings (is one oval?) looks like 70ish chevelle
Yes, both Holman-Moody and Stock Car Products had their own forged spindles back then. Usually refered to as Super Speedway spindles. Don't count on the A-arms identifying anything, it was usually mix-n-match back then.
69 GP and 70 Chevelle same arms, as Jim said. Any idea on the diamond logo? Ony old HM info anywhere? THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
Stuff ended up being Holman-Moody, including hubs, spindles, rear axle floater components, tie rod ends. Center link and idler was 65 Chevelle modified to accept bigger inners. So...anybody got any of this stuff???