33 vs 34 Ford window regulators question?

Do the windows on a 34 roll back an inch or so before rolling down? Is the window opening different between the 2 years? How is the window opening different? Thanks

 

I believe 34 rolls back then down, thats why ther is that metal strip that goes up and down on the back of the doors.

 

wind the window up on a 34 then give the crank another turn and the window moves back into the metal strip to give you a vent.I have heard it called a smokers window?

 

Window regulators are different, and are not interchangeable.

The 34 door window opening has the flap of metal at the rear, and as a result the garnish moulds are 1" shorter.

Mark

WANTED: 1933 RH door garnish mould - any body style, but Tudor prefered
WANTED: 1933 or 1934 roof section, RH side

 

Learn something everyday.

 

Yep, smokers window. That and the '34 wheel wells are the two things I like better than the '33s.

 

Is the 33 wheel well missing the chicken foot or is there something else?

 

You forgot the grille! There's something not quite right to me about that curve in the '33, when compared to the '34.

 

It depends if it's and early or late model 34.

 

Mine is smooth, whats that mean- early, late ,33,34?

 

Is this metal strip on the back and inside of the inner door frame - a sheet metal C channel? Also, is the wheel well different because of the chicken foot?

 

theres a bunch of differences, are you not sure of what you have body wise?

the back window on a 33 has wood around it and 34 has metal.

the upper door tins are different between 33 and 34, 33 has tabs where it nails to the inside and 34 is just a strait edge.

and on and on, 33 door latches are different than 34 but theres a early late thning there too.

JEFF

 

34 is only a Facelifted 33.
33 is the original (read the perfect one ;-) )

 

It is supposed to be a 34 but the inside is pretty much gutted. No door skins, currently no wood around the rear window and don't remember seeing any place to install wood. Will take a look at the door edge for nailing tabs.

 

33s and early 34s use the same door latches which mount the inside handle at the front of the door.
Later 34s have the remote on the latch which mounts the door handle at mid-door.

 

I believe the rollback ventilation feature is found on ALL Ford p***enger cars and Sedan Deliveries from 1934 through 1939. In 1940 conventional vent windows were used.

 

Ummm, no I didn't! The grille is THE main reason (ok the hood sides too) the '33 is cooler. That curve is why so many '34 street rods use the '33 grille. I'm not into the streetrods, but at least they know the better grille

 

Looked at this big 5w project today and realized the drivers door has the provisions for the smokers window but the p***enger door doesn't. At one time loooooong ago one of the doors must have been replaced. It has the chicken foot in the wheelwell and doesn't look like there was ever wood around the rear window so am thinking it was born a 34. Does anyone have a picture of a 33 with the wood around the rear window? Thanks for any help- (side note) cold here but no snow and ElNino is supposedly coming.

 

I can't remember how it goes but i believe there are like 44 or 144 little differances thru out the car between the 2 years. I was surprised there was that many. Things like the doors and the early 34 had the inside handle at the front. Dash differances etc.

 

The change order to the 1934 type grille and hood came in late August 1933 so the 1934 style cars were actually produced from September 1934 onwards. Some of the first 1934 style 1933s had left over 1933 doors fitted. The center positioned inside door handle didn't start until around May of 1934 but the extra brace on the rear of the front doors began much earlier than that.

There are no absolutes when it comes to these early Fords.

 

One of the easiet ways to tell the difference is that on the cowl of a 33 there are two small brackets riveted at the top of the firewall to hold the hood while open. A 34 has a notch in this area to hold the hood. If I am mistaken someone please tell me so!

 

Anyone interested in adding to the list of differences between 33's and 34's?

1. Chicken foot in rear wheel well of 34, not on 33.
2. Smokers window in 34's.
3. Wood around rear window of 33's.
4. Different grills.
5. Hood and hood sides have different dimensions.
6. One hood handle on 33, two on 34's.
7. Door handle location.

 

cowl vents 34's had screens to keep the bug's out

 

The 33 grill has a little more slope and does not have as much showing around the edge. The hood side panels have curved louvers on the 33 and stright on the 34 . the 33 has one latch handle in the center and the 34 has 2 one on each end. the door handles on the 33 are at the front of the door awith a pull ring in the center the 34 has the the door handle in the center with no pull ring. There are 54 changes between the 33 and 34.

 

also the glove box door is different the ash tray the gauges and many more but im to old to remember

 

My '34 has wood around the rear window.