has anyone put a 41 front clip on a 47-8?I have a 47 cpe w/o a clip and access to a 41 front clip CHEAP-50$and as I want a 41 cpe, I thought well....
<font color="green">I don't know if it's been done but I can't see why not as the cars are supposed to be identical from the cowl back, minus the bijillion holes in the 42-48 doors for the "fadeaways". </font>
I was out yesterday looking for doors for Vic , and counted em 5 per door which isn't real bad, I like the 41 better, and the 47 cpe is my old parts car w a ***le,seems like a cheap way to get into that cpe I wanted, the 47-8 leans more to the custom side than rod in my opinion and I'm thinking a street g***er w it, My gennie 1929-1947 Chevy parts + acc. book call for same parts in most cases from 41-8,with the front clip parts excepted, but from the firewall back to the tailights ,taillamps and bumper are different , so it seems likely.I just plain like the 41 front clip better.
One of the guys in my club had a '46 with a '41 front clip and he said it bolted right up except for a few holes that had to be redrilled for alignment.It was a g***er style when he bought it and he took that sheet metal off at least 3 times while changing over the front end to sit lower and steer better.
<font color="green">Yeah, you're right about the holes. I was just remembering welding up alot of holes on my 41 but it was the one with all the trim and I am running it without any. </font>
Pay attention to where the hood meets the cowl. On the 42-48 cars, the cowl only shows at the top, but as it turns down the side (towards vertical), it gets covered up by the hood. (So there is a seam that separates the hood and door, with no cowl showing in between). On the 41's, there is a bit of cowl showing on the outside surface of the body between the hood and door. This would NOT be a bolt-up deal, but you could probably put the 41 cowl onto the 42-48 body. As for the rest of the body and frame, they look very close, if not identical.
Thanks for the pics, Rashy. Looks like the same story continues dwn between the fender and door, too. I forgot it went down that far. Dang, that 47-8 coupe you posted has a nice stance. (Color scheme aside.)
<font color="green">Lotsa colors there! Another problem would be that the verticle portions of the fenders are part of the fender on the 41, the 42-8 doesn't have them as they are part of the hood. Also the way thte hood comes into the front... I was thinking maybe some sorta hood swap. I'm sure it could be done but you are right SLIDE, NOT a bolt on job. Shows what I know! </font>
pretty serious metal work to make it work then (at least for me) welllll.... maybe a 47 cpe project then, LOTS of them around here, LOL, no of a 47 fleetline (fastback ) avil.for $250, I'll go pick that one up.gotta check what fits between the 2 like inner garnishes/doors , If I remember right the fleetline has a shorter windscreen.
Its quite a job as I did the 41 frt on a 47 coupe that I built,there is a raised place whed the lower "pod" bolts on the 47-8 doors that has to be cut and smoothed out and the front edge of door is irregular and will need some added and ground to fit the rear of 41 fenders-THEN theres that extra hole deal!
Mike L.-- As for your comments about fleetline vs. coupe, almost nothing between the firewall and taillight lenses interchange! Doors, sill plates, garnishes, trim, fuel tank, it's all different. You are right that the windshield is shorter on fleetlines, and the doors are, too (Height-wise). Not only that, but the doors are a different SHAPE! (Ask me how I know! ) Back to the coupes, there were at least 2 different coupes, maybe 3? I don't know these very well, but I know the business coupe had the gas tank where the back seat would be, and the filler neck was between the door and rear fender. The club(?) coupe had the tank under the trunk floor, with the filler coming through the rear fender. There is a surprising amount of stuff that won't interchange even from one coupe to the next. It's crazy, man.
orig chevy parts book calls rear fenders same 41-8 w an adendumn for 46-8 about the gas tank filler holes, but doors + fenders are all seperate years from lt 30's all the way thru 41, ea year all by itself, until 46 then its the same thru 48 in a particular model line- cpe ,sedans 2 + 4 dr, fleetline etc.NONE interchange between models, all cpe doors are the same, now that does'nt mean that they will not fit w modifications, just that the factory says no. just looked it up. doors as above rear fenders , mostly the same 41-8 besides gas filler issues 47-8 front fenders 36-41 front fenders are all by themselves each year and certain rears are model specific to 40 this from the facrory parts book looks like I am definately doing a 47
Tell me about it. I am building a 48 Coupe with Fleetline doors and cowl, and a 41 front end. Don't ask why EMS makes most of the cowl pieces needed to convert the 48 cowl to fit the 41 front end. By the way, the door hinges are different too.
oh,Fleetline Areosedans, are all by themselves in relation to doors, deck lids, garnishes and gl*** and NOT considered cpes OR sedans
Good info, Mike L. Chevs of the 40s and The Filling Station are both pretty decent resources for repop and some NOS parts for these cars. Their printed catalogs will show a lot of what interchanges and what doesn't (by looking at what parts fit a paricular car, with separate part numbers for similar same-year cars). Same goes for Steele Rubber
<font color="green">Man, That's some good info. I'll shut up and sit in the corner now. I guess I shoulda known the doors were different. I had a hard enough time getting the 41 doors to fit on the 41! </font>
forget my 47 parts car , its junk too many years in the same place , just got back from checking it out (in the rain)its shot, back to looking for a cpe.
Mike L., Where in MN are you? The yard where I got my '39 ford, has 4 or 5 46-48 chevy coupes, I don't think hes real bad on prices, but I don't have exact #'s or conditions of the cars. Might be worth a look if your close.
near St Cloud ,prolly get serious about looking after Monday when the auction ends on my 57.then i'll know how capital I have for a purchase, really want 41 or older , but thought as long as I had the 47 already , I'd got that route, but its basically a green house, w many key trim/body parts robbed off of it by someone.Plus I'm guessing some kids got at it as not a single pc of gl*** is whole anymore.
Yeah if you measure from the center of rear gl*** opening at top[front to back of the roof] to the center of w/s opening at top on a bussiness coupe it varies a little between a 41 and a 46-7-8 that had a back seat......... Mike if you do a fleetline I have I believe a set of window garnish mouldings for the fleet'.....
heres the cpe ,when I had parked it here in the 80's it was complete except trim and seats- too far gone now only thing usable is the doors, rt rr fender,F+R window stainless ,bits n pcs
they are still out there however , I started looking yesterday morning , and came up with the following these are all within 30 Mi's of me 1939 dodge 4 dr solid body,engine stuck, no ***le $800 1941 cpe no ***le or #'s missing a bunch and rusty $600 1947 fleetline, rust in floors, basically complete, no ***le $250 1940 sedan complete runner minor rust no ***le $1800 1939 Ford standard 2 dr sedan ,no ***le ,rust,incomplete $900 Hambr's 40 cpe in Duluth decent car ***led $1500 1954 olds 88 2 dr sedan complete less engine /trans has ***le $900 my old 47 cpe -free, but shot- (I'm sitting on this one)- 1941 sedan RUSTY, but has all 4 nos fenders+ a PILE of nos and orig. parts w ***le $1200 4 or so on egay as for well under $2000 in MN several in ND for under $1500 these are the prices I was quoted that does'nt mean I have them for sale or what someone else can get them for.NONE are advertised for sale, just what they said I could have them for.I can't p*** along the prices to others as the last time I did that , I got cut off by a pissed friend and word traveled that I scalped his sale. I know all of these people and get deals, they know if I want something, its a done deal w no BS about what they want, its cash n carry ,prices are uaually 25% or more higher to walk ins or non club members.
[ QUOTE ] You are right that the windshield is shorter on fleetlines, and the doors are, too (Height-wise) [/ QUOTE ] i always thought they looked like they were chopped from the factory,but never measured a sedan or coupe..cool and thanks for the website links. ............................................................ i started my 48 up the night before last,it runs as long as i poured gas down the carb. im needing the very lower left side grill bar for a 47 or 48 if anybody has a grill that may be damaged on the other side., thanks sam
Are the rears of the doors the same? Would it be possible to use the '41 clip and doors on the later models? Just a thought....
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