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34 banjo rear desirable? what to pay?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hitchhiker, Dec 22, 2009.

  1. Hitchhiker
    Joined: May 1, 2008
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    Found a 34 banjo rear. Came out of a driving car. no spring. not sure on bones. How desirable is it? and what is a good price range to pay? he said make an offer....$100? $50? $200
     
  2. pasadenahotrod
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    You know it can only be used as is with the curved 32-34 rear spring?
    It's a decision you need to make and for what you are building is it the right choice?
    Parts are plentiful for the 35-48 rears but not so much for the 32-34s.
     
  3. Hitchhiker
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    okay, well. I'm not really building anything. more just stockpiling if I can get it for the right price. But i would like to build a 40's era highboy 30-31 model Av8 on a 32 frame. so may be this rear would be a good choice.
     
  4. Chris
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    I would use a 35-up rear on a Model A...I'm using a 37-40 in my roadster right now. But if you use the stock 32 rear crossmember it would bolt right it. It would probably sit pretty high like that. Lotta guys run an A rear crossmember and spring. Kind of like "choose your poison" I guess, just depends on what you wanna do with the car. If you p***, lemme know, I need a good rear for my 33 coupe!
     
  5. Hitchhiker
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    well, after doing some research it looks like a 35 up rear with the A spring and rear crossmember is the set up I would most likely run. If you need a good rear I would be more than happy to p*** it along to you for your project. Like I said, I have nothing in mind for it really and I would rather it go to a good home and be used sooner rather than sit in my stockpile. I could even go pick it up for you and store it till you can come get it or I can probably even get it to you when I head to my families property in St. Maries. Pm me if you want the contact info.

    edit: post 333...half way to 666 hopefully I'll have a car by then...
     
  6. Paul
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    if it's in good useable condition and has juice brakes installed it could be worth a couple hundred,
    and you can still use it in your A ch***is, either like said above with the "bent" spring or weld perches to the bells, either on top, A style or to the back, later style.
     
  7. Angry Frenchman
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    Im using A 32 in my tv8 and it works fine but it can not take a beating. it only has 3 spider and they are thin. I'm on my 3rd set. as for the curved spring and perch, I heated the perch up and straiten them and used A custom A spring. also the guts in these rear axle have A lot of the same parts as model A. Jared
     
  8. golferforpar
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    I am finding this post informative. I would like to ask a question regarding front suspensions also. I am starting to collect parts for hopefully a future project. Thinking of a track type roadster pickup, original Ford wishbones, original Ford axle, probably have it dropped. Spring perches mounted off wishbones. What years would people rank as desirable and maybe not so desirable? I suspect a 32 heavy front axle would be a top priority but that is unlikely to happen, I'm too cheap.
    Thanks
     
  9. Bruce Lancaster
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    Frenchman's post is about the more common '32 axle used up til near end of '32 run. Very late '32's use same rear as '32-4 except for driveshaft length.
    Perfectly good rear, but remember that 99.9% are 4.11 and that parts are scarcer than '35-48. Useful if in good condition and gears match your need.
     
  10. Hitchhiker
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    thanks guys for the info. I have actually given Chris the guy's contact info as he needs this more than I do at the moment and I am hoping to earn a ride in a certain roadster:rolleyes:
     
  11. Angry Frenchman
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    Hitchhiker you are A righteous dude! ( did I spell righteous right?) I'll hook up people with parts just to go on A hell ride too. Hey Bruce L what is the major diffrent inside A 33 34 rear axle from a model A or 32? besides the torque drive shaft. do they have 4 spider gears or is the carrier bigger? thanks Jared
     
  12. doctorZ
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    the only real advantage to changing to a model A spring in the back is if you are going to run a quickchange and need the clearance. the 1933/1934 rear ends are good but not as strong as the later housings. it will work great with a stock 1932 frame, though.
    another key thing to ask is the breaks. if it already has been converted to juice (which i am ***uming you intend on doing), that will save you a few hundred dollars as far as backing plates and hubs are concerned.
     
  13. Chris
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    Thanks for that dude, you can have a roadster ride fo-show even without hookin me up. I mean ****, what the hell good is a hot rod if you don't try to scare people and break it once in a while?
     
  14. Chris
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    There is an early and late 32 rear end...the early had a Model A type drive shaft that tappers in the back and has a key cut in it...just like the outer side of the axle. They also don't have a pinon support bearing...pretty weak design. The bottom of the torque tube has a rounded shape to it with a smaller bolt pattern, just like and A were as the later ones had a star shape and larger bolt circle. Lastly, the wishbone mounts on the early ones are dead strait with the car, were the later ones are angled. 33/34 are a lot longer then 32, but other then that I think the late 32's are pretty much the same...correct??
     
  15. Airborne34
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    I paid $100 for just the 34 banjo, no drive shaft or raidus rods. Mine came from a restored car. Ive seen complete restored units with juice brakes go for $5/600++
     
  16. Duration
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    i hope those old banjo rears are cheap, I just gave the 36 rear out of my ford to a guy who came to the shop and wanted it! i put a 9 inch in the old 36!
     
  17. krooser
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    I sold a '34 rear a couple years ago for $300.00 bone stock. the 35-40 banjos went for $175-$250 depending on how complete they were...

    Now I have a '33 ch***is with the stock rear and I plan on keeping this one for the duration.
     
  18. ironfly28
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    What was the gearing? I sold a 36 rear end with 3:54 gears last year for $700
     

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