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Disc Brakes on a Dana 44

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bad Frog, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. I am moving this request for guidance from another thread to get more input. Here is my build:

    1. I am building a 1950 Merc with a flathead with 4-71 blower
    2. T-5 transmission
    3. I want to retain as much as the original equipment as possible
    4. Using Jamco ball joint conversion with 5" drop up front/drop springs in the back
    5. It is my goal is to keep the Dana 44 stock rear end
    The challenge:

    I want to put disc brakes on the original Dana 44 if possible, but I have not seen a kit to make this happen. The way I see it, this plan means that I am going to endure a significant amount of *** pain cutting the ends off and replacing with those for a ford 9", dealing with spline count differences, and only then it is smooth sailing. Or am I better off just shifting to a ford 9" from the beginning? Thanks in advance for any insight or suggestions.
     
  2. Putting discs on the stock rearend wouldn't be very original anyway, might as well just find a 9".
     
  3. AllSteel36
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    You sure you have a "stock Dana 44" in a '50 Merc?
     
  4. I thought the same thing. After a little research I found that some of the 1950s had Dana 44s in them. From what I understand the Dana 41 was unavailable so they made up the rest of the production year with the 44s. Kind of one of the reasons I want to keep it if possible. It is kind of unique.
     
  5. Yes, they had Dana 44s.
     
  6. Brad54
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    The Dana 44 is still in production today. The 9-inch is famous for longevity (production-wise) but it's got nothing on the 44.
    Look under newer Jeep Cherokees, Grand Wagoneers, etc. etc., Ford Exlporers... You can also shop ebay for fresh take-out limited-slip differentials with new factory gears on them. I like the factory gears because they're quiet. The OEs just won't tolerate gear howl like aftermarket customers will.

    You've probably got the course-spline axles in yours, but the late-model Dana's have a finer spline... I think 28 spline. It mattered to me a while back because I was shopping for parts for the Dana 44 under my '62 Suburban.

    -Brad
     
  7. 55 dude
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    do your homework if your getting one out of later jeep as they also used dana 35's and they are JUNK! i have a 98' grand cherokee and the rearend had been howling for the last 60k. real common problem.
     
  8. Kenneth S
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    Ford Explorers use 8.8's. Look under 90's camaro's, and firebirds, some had 44's with disks.
     
  9. Larsdk
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    Volvo used Dana 44 in the 240 and 260 series. And i think they had discs.
    Lars
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    Might need to verify the bolt pattern on the housing end. Something in here might work.

    http://www.tsmmfg.com/jeep.htm
    http://www.tsmmfg.com/2100_5t.htm

    Or just find a rotor that fits and use a weld on caliper bracket, like the four-ex-four and track guys use.

    I run Cadillac Eldorado calipers on several vehicles, the big and the small ones, depending on the GVW of the vehicle.
     
  11. Shifty Shifterton
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    I dunno man, dailies with rear discs have a hell of a time with brake residue on the rear wheels and seem to have worse issues with wet roads & needing a moment for the pads to dry. For anything that won't be traveling triple digits, gotta question if it's really an improvement.

    Good luck
     
  12. Thanks for the input. I will give it some more thought and research before moving forward. If I do start this endeavor in earnest, I will post pics of the conversion so others can chuckle along with me.
     
  13. 73RR
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    My OT DD, has rear disc and no signs of residue. Front, yes; rear, no.
    A moment to dry? Perhaps a milli second or two to squeege the moisture from the surface of the rotor. If the pads are retaining moisture I'd be replacing pads before they fall apart.

    .
     
  14. tigerShark
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    some cherokees(mid size xj) in the late 80's with the tow package had the Dana 44. 87's, 88's and very few 89's.

    edit: they had drums though.
     
  15. Stefan T
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    If you want to use dics in the rear end check so they are matching in pressure for the brake system.
    There is verry nice calipers on Audi but i think the diameter on the pistons is to small to us front calipers so will brake to little
     
  16. Shifty Shifterton
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    I guess we drive different cars or have different levels of pickiness about the wheels :D. If I use any kind of metallic pad then the rear wheels and bumper are coated with metallic residue that will rust if left for a few weeks. Carbon pads leave dust that's easier to clean but have worse cold stop manners. We're not talking about one car here, closer to a dozen. I think aero must do a better job of removing front disc residue.
     
  17. Zoidberg
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    1994 - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo's had Dana 44's in the rear....Disk Brake and some had a G80 Limited Slip, Only issue is the axle is a 6 Lug with Pretty Big Disk Brakes......-Ryan
     
  18. Nerner
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  19. 73RR
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    ...levels of pickiness about the wheels... sounds like maybe you have been spying on me and my dirty truck......:D. I agree, metallic pads are a whole different story.

    .
     
  20. iadr
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    False.
    Dana 27 1960-ish to 67-68,
    Dana 30 from then to 84-85,
    their own modified version of Dana 30 from then until mid-90's (diff itself is Dana 30 with larger ring & pinion wrapped around it.)

    Not recommneded as a source of parts either way, as they have a very uncommon 5 on 4.25" bolt pattern on all disc brake rear ends
     
  21. slacker1965
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    my '97 grand cherokee(zj) has a dana 44 w/3.73's & disc brakes. it does have a v8 & factory tow package which was an option.
    hope this helps!
     

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