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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jethro, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. Great thread, very nice work. You better watch out this could turn in to something that could fund your projects.
     
  2. Old Guy
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    If you look on E-Bay item # 190351063037 there is a Halibrand lower shaft for sale that looks like it is a six spline.
    I managed to get the axle bell's and spring for my quickchange painted today and hopefully will get it assembled tomorrow. Will post some pictures when I am done.
     
  3. 3wLarry
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    note to self...continue hating talented people.
     
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  4. sloorider
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    Jethro, your a fabricating madman...injectors...steering wheels...whats next now that you gots the lathe and mill...ok,ok quick change first...
     
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  6. bct
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    nice start jethro!...you can do it! no question....
     
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  7. holeshot
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    hey JETHRO...this is 1 of the most interesting things i've seen on h.a.m.b. man that's why i love it here! you are a MASTER for sure. i've worked on many types of machinery, and loved them all.(GEARHEAD) i confess. i'am definantly home here. brother this place get's better each day! thanks again RYAN.....pop.
     
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  8. Jethro
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    Thanks for the "heads up"....looking forward to seeing your progress!
     
  9. You don't plan on making any of the lower rear flange "star" adaptor plates do you ;)!?
     
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  11. Old Guy
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    You don't really need an adapter plate. If you look at mine it is just a half inch steel plate that is bolted and welded to the rearend. Then there is a piece of 2 inch .188 wall DOM that goes between the plate and the rearend housing. I ran the tube all the way through the housing to keep everything aligned and then machined out what I didn't need from the inside of the housing.
    In a previous post I mentioned a lower shaft that was on E-Bay. Found out it was a ten spline shaft. Actually I used a Winters champ style shaft and resplined the gear end to six spline. Not a lot of fun because it is harder than japanese arithmetic.
     
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  12. Thanks, I see the differences in how your two approaches work.:)
     
  13. Jethro
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    That "star" piece was already welded to the housing when I got it from a friend who started to build his quickchange. On my next one I think I'll do it like OLD GUY and not use a flange and just weld the tube to the gear plate.
     
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  14. shadetreerodder
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    Any updates on this?
     
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  15. dumprat
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    Looks pretty good so far. Did you but weld that shaft or heat shrink and weld it?
     
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  16. Old Guy
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    The only problem I see with making the lower shaft out of an old Ford driveshaft is that you still have to find a six spline yoke . I bought a Winters lower shaft on E-Bay that was 10 spline on both ends. I resplined the gear end to six spine and pressed on a piece of an old driveshaft coupler. I then turned the outside of the coupler to fit the id of the bearing I was using. I took a piece of spline off old driveshaft, turned the snout to fit the bearing in the rear cover and then plugged this into the splines in the coupler.
    Cutting the splines on the shaft was a bitch, because it is really hard. If i was doing another one I would probably turn the shaft down, bore part of the coupler for a press fit and then weld it on. You can find a Winters lower shaft on E-Bay most of the time for a pretty decent price. Every once in a while there are Halibrand V8 ones which are ideal, because the are already six spline.
     
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  17. Doc Squat
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    I thought this was some other kind if post, damn.
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  18. WTF!!! Just when I start to think I JUST MIGHT be smart enough to finish the greaslapper this magician comes along and make his own QC!!??!! So here I sit scratchin' my ass and droolin' on the keyboard!! Incredable!!!
    Great work, my dad the master machinist would be proud.
     
  19. C. Montgomery
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    nothing else on this?
     
  20. Jethro
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    Update for today. I welded everything together. I used " magic" rod...it's really called that. It's made for dissimilar metals and the welding guy said that's what to use. He said it was 318 stainless with a special flux. I smashed the flux off and tigged everything together. I used a tiger torch to get the housing hot and after welding I heated everything again and cooled it slowly....no cracks! (that I can see )While I was so concerned about the welds cracking I had some distortion that I had to deal with , but it was an easy fix.I still have to make up a cover. I want to cast one but for now I'll make one up from ...gasp!...BILLET.

    So Here's progress .....

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  21. Old Guy
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    Good to see you got it all together. Looks a lot like mine. One question, why did you make the gearcase so large. I made mine to fit a Halibrand cover, which is just a little under 4" ID. How long did you sit and stare at the thing after you got it done.
     
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  22. Jethro
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    Yeah I've been looking at it and you're right the gear case is pretty big. I didn't have anything to pattern from so it was a lot of guessing. My next one will be better.....any more progress on your "T"
     
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  23. Old Guy
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    Not too much progress. I don't have heat in my shop and I have a pinched nerve in my back. Been working on some of the electrical stuff. I can work on that stuff in the house.
    Need to do a couple of more thing on the frame so I can take everything apart and start painting things. As soon as I get something decent to look at I will post some pictures
     
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  24. Mysterio
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    Nice welding.
     
  25. Go ahead and make your cover out of billet. File and sand the corners off nice and round. This will take some time. But, as we all can tell, you are O/C so that should not be a problem. When it is done bolt it to a piece of plate steel to protect the critical surfaces. Then take it to a sand blaster and have him hit it with a course abrasive. It will look cast. No one will know.
     
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  26. Jethro
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    I'll give that a try and post some pics ....I've been thinking about doing a "lost foam" casting too, hope to try that also.
     
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  27. Jethro
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    Little progress....I made a rear bearing support/cover......uh, out of B&%$#@T......man that does look like a bad word!
    I changed my approach, Old Guy clued me in that my housing looked too large so I changed the bolt flange to the inside and made the cover the same size as the housing. Still a bit big but I can live with it. Everything turns so I think I'm on the right track. I needed a socket to hold the pinion while I set the preload so I made one from a piece of 6 spline coupler and an old broken 3/8 socket.... made holding and turning the pinion a lot easier.
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  28. sdluck
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    That is amazing
     
  29. doctorZ
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    really well done. it's awesome to see so much built from creativity.
     

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