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Satin paint which is best?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ron1970nova, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. ron1970nova
    Joined: Oct 13, 2009
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    Is the John Deere flat satin best or what have you all used that is better? Spraying not spray bombs....
     
  2. skullhat
    Joined: May 30, 2009
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    lot of guys use it, i wouldnt say its the best , but it may be one of the least expensive

    i prefer rm uno 804, or sem hot rod black



    skull
     
  3. SlowandLow63
    Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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    from Central NJ

    I've had good luck using basecoat with a flattened clear coat over it. Hot Rod Flatz isn't terrible if you know what you're doing.
     
  4. JD black is very forgiving paint to spray. Cheap, and easy to apply and sticks to anything.
     
  5. bobscogin
    Joined: Feb 8, 2007
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    If it's good enough for John Deere's tractors, it should be good enough for yours.

    Bob
     
  6. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    from Garner, NC

    Flattened single stage automotive paint.
     
  7. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    Painted 2 deuce trucks with Krylon semi gloss black and it held up really great. On my current roadster we used Spitz Heckler semi gloss urethane.
     
  8. I really like the Valspar "low gloss black" from Tractor Supply. $30 per gallon.
     
  9. uniquecoaches
    Joined: Oct 26, 2008
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    Hotrod flatz over a white sealer works fantastic if you are spraying their metallics or pearls. Their solid colors cover fantastic and they are very affordable.
     

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  10. von Dyck
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    Caterpiller Black (like John Deere) is reasonably priced, goes on nicely and is very durable - it's gotta be, considering the conditions these machines work in!
     
  11. 55oldsrocket
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    i second hot rod flatz also,it is easy to spray and looks good. I tried flattening agent on single stage and its a pain in the a#@ . specially if your gonna spray at a later date, u have to mix the same amount of flatener to match your previous paint.
     
  12. Donny D. Ville
    Joined: Dec 17, 2009
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    When I worked at Jacks Lowrodders id do our suede jobs with Rustoleum Satin, knock it down 50/50 with Acetone. I still do them and love the results. Also if you want what looks to be a survivor paint job use the standard Rustoleum and either Acetone or Laquer Thinner 50/50, Acetone giving a flatter look then the Laquer Thinner due to drying time. Side note Frazee house paint was the previous hahahaha we called it OC SUEDE hahahaha it looked freakin sweet and we could do any color but i wouldnt wanna paint over it
     
  13. boomosby
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    how hard is it to get the tractor psint off after, when u r reday for final paint???
     
  14. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    But that is exactly what Hot Rod Flatz is. :rolleyes:

    A royal bitch.
     
  15. JD Flatz is the final paint. only thing i've had trouble with is that it's thinning out, but it's been a number of years.
     
  16. cgaswillys
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    Same here, just make sure you thin it out much more than the directions say.
     
  17. SlowandLow63
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    I think he means taking a single stage and adding the flattener in yourself. Definitely a PIA. The HRF is at least pre-flattened for you, which takes any guesswork out but limits your gloss level options.

    The number 1 rule is mix the hell out of whatever you use if it has a flattener in it.
     
  18. RABs32
    Joined: Nov 14, 2009
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    from new jersey

    I've used sikkens rally shwartz black it's a single stage urethane,and can be recoated at a later date.
     
  19. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    Yep but he was concerned about touch up or painting more later. Mix all your paint with the flattener at once. I don't trust to order from Hot Rod Flatz later and it match. Make sure you get enough to do the whole car and mix it real good to begin with. My local paint suppliers will mix it for me no problem and has been cheaper than Hot Rod Flatz jsut about every time.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2010
  20. brocluno
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    Sikkens makes some real durable industrial paints that flat stick to anything. Good brand. But, since they are Dutch, their catalog is a bit of a challenge.
     
  21. 55oldsrocket
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    from Santa Ana

    slow and low - thats what i meant.

    zman - in my case i was painting the firewall with flat black, and bought only
    1 quart. and it sucked, mixing flatener and shooting test panels till i
    got it right where i wanted. i got mad and went w HRF.
     

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