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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Michigander, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. Michigander
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    As far as the body shell and doors are concerned, what differentiates a 1933 Ford from a 1934 Ford (car) body? I know the '34 front doors have the vent feature, with the filler strip at the rear of the door window openings. Anything else?

    I know about the hood and grill, but I'm talking main body shell and closures here.

    Thanks.

    Steve
     
  2. Michigander
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    Found a old post that said "There is a little "Notch" in the leading edge of the firewall of a 34 for the hood side to catch into when open. the 33 doesn't have the notch,... ". That's one difference.

    Steve
     
  3. Michigander
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    More searching shows a '33 has wood framing around the rear window. Most '34's are all steel there, while a few (early cars?) still had wood framing.

    Steve
     
  4. Weasel
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    1934 has holes at the bottom of the cowl for the rear hood handle to latch into - 1933 does not. Note that the 1934 body style started to be produced in September 1933 following a seamless change order. 1933s (7 months production) are far rarer than 1934s (15 months production). 1933 Vicky and 1934 Vicky are completely different animals.

    Also headlamps on 1933s are 7/8" longer than 1934. There is no such thing as a 1933/34 headlamp. Cowl lamps were more pointed/longer in 1933 too.
     
  5. 4ever18
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    The '33 closed car bodies use a piece of wood along the top of the windshield area, while the '34 bodies have a larger piece of metal. Here's a '33 version, followed by a '34 version:
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  6. hotrodA
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    33 gauge panel is removable engine-turned piece, where 34 is plain steel and intergal to the dash stamping.
     
  7. Weedburner 40
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    Inside 33 and early 34 door handles are at the front of the door where later 34's are towards the center and attach to the latch remotely. Also, the rear wheel wells are smoothe on 33/early 34 where the later 34's had a "checken foot" stampind in them. Actually there are over 100 differences between the 33 and 34 Fords.
     
  8. TERPU
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    12 months. HA Ha HA HA Ha rimshot!!!!!

    I know, but it was way too easy and just begging to be spoken
    Tim
     
  9. chop32
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    1933 dash doesnt have an ashtray in the center while 1934 does.
    1933 and 1934 door garnish mouldings have a different design at the bottom.
    Thats all I can remember for now!
     
  10. jonathan
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    The beading the cowl lacing sits in starts/stops on a 34. Continuous on a 33.
     
  11. I've got a 33 with the Ashtray in the center of the dash, stock.
    HemiDeuce.
     
  12. chop32
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    Interesting, I stand corected. Maybe its a deluxe vs. standard model difference in 1933??
     
  13. gearhead1952
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    The rear wheel well has a chicken track in it on 34s, 33s are smooth.
     
  14. old4dlvr
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    Inside front windshield trim differs from 33/34. 33 has extra lip on front edge. 33/34 have different panel shape at bottom of cowl where rear hood catches. Inner fender differs 33 has half bulge while 34 has full bulge. I to have a 33 with ash tray etc. in the dash.
     
  15. baylissrestorations FL
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    im chopping a 33 and bought 34 doors for there inner panel and for extra steel for the door tops.. nothing is the same..top channel is even differnt. thinking i could slice 2 inches out and weld it in my top tops..no ****ing way. i new the door inners would be differnt ,being the 34 inside handle is more in the center..but coulnt find 33 inner panels, but found junk 34 doors out west.. i chopped it 5 inches so the roof was diced in 2 places
    and it gos on & on..33 & 34 are really differnt..
     
  16. Weasel
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    1933 header panels have squareish corners, 1934 have rounded corner.
     
  17. magic martin
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    correction to the statement 33 do not have ashtrays and 34 do (WRONG) i just purchased a 33 dashboard with cigar smokers option and it has ligther and ashtry. sorry just trying to help
     
  18. Captain Mudflap
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    Here are "FACTS" about this topic: There were many "running changes" on the 1933 Ford Model. "Early" 1933's had front fenders that looked-like 1932's (w/o the side-skirt).
    "Late" 1933's have what some refer to as: "1934 noses." Contrary to the belief of most collector's, the straight grille. & corresponding two-handle (per-side), hood usually ***ociated w/the 1934-style p***enger cars, were actually a late 1933 change...which began in September, 1933. Production of the 1934 models, was not started, until November, 1933. The grille, & hood were modified, simultaneously. Engineering releases affecting these parts, were issued: September 13, to Sept. 21 1933, marked: "Effective At Once" - accompanied-by instructions to coordinate the change of all parts at that time.

    The rear "inner" fenders are different between 1933's (smooth), and 1934's (chicken-feet) - to alleviate the "oil-canning" affect of flat sheet metal. The front inner fenders are also different, as 1933's have raised rubber grommet tabs, and 1934's do not.

    Cowl vents are different: 1933's have no screen, whereas 1934's do.

    Doors are different: 1934's have an extra 1-inch section, in rear of window. while 1933's do not.

    Interior "Door Pulls" - were 1933, only.

    The saga, continues... ;)
    CHEERS!
    AL :)
     
  19. If I am not mistaken there were 3 different inner fenders in 1933 & 1934.
     

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