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Customs laying a 41 chevy convertible on its rockers....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kami-cozzi, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. kami-cozzi
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    and heres where i plated the inside of the frame, to give back some of the strength that i possibly lost when sectioning it

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  2. A.P. Photography
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    I am with the rest, don't see enough rust to justify cutting it in half but maybe I am not seeing something. As for the framework I understand what they are doing and why. Keep updating.
     
  3. plan9
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    concerning the frame: he wants to lay rocker... frame extends past rocker which prevents it from "laying rocker"... channeling isnt an option, cutting the frame is. thats the way im reading into the original post.

    these chevy frames are beefy as fuck. it can handle a trim. i dont see any risk in integrity doing it this way.
     
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  4. kami-cozzi
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    the floor looks alright in the picture, but the entire passenger rocker and lower pillars are gone, the driver rocker was cut up and attempted to fix by a previous owner with diamond plate, and the wheel wells and trunk area have pretty bad cancer.
     
  5. Looks like you got some fun stuff floating around your shop?
     
  6. briggs&strattonChev
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    So no air bags or hydros? Its going to be coil springs up from and leafs in the rear like originally?

    Laying rocker will be its permanent ride height? Ive read through the thread twice, I still must be missing something though.
     
  7. flynbrian48
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    I didn't insult you, I said the work looked good, but you weakened an already limber frame. Don't get you panties in a wad.

    Brian
     
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  8. jasone
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    I was thinking the same thing....."laying rocker" is going to be ride height?
     
  9. There aren't enough old cars left to screw one up on purpose. He might as well stick the body on an S-10 frame as go through all the cutting and welding to modify the original Chevy frame AND make it weaker for all the work.
    It looks like the guy is committed to his misguided plan...no matter what!
     
  10. 49ratfink
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    I'm not a big fan of laying frame or bags in general. with that said I don't see that the frame strength has been compromised. with the side plates as well as everthing being fully welded rather than spot welded like the original top hat frame it should be good.

    I've seen posts here where a guy shows his car laying frame and everyone tells them how cool they are, all the while having absolutly no idea how they achieved the look. could be all diamond plate, rebar and booger welds but that doesn't matter.

    looks like he's doing good work. I for one would like to see this to completion here on the HAMB, should be an interesting build
     
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  11. your going about it the right way its better than channeling the body over the frame
     
  12. briggs&strattonChev
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    Why? Because of the scrub line?
     
  13. kami-cozzi
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    lol damn now im really gonna catch hell, the car is gonna have a HYDRAULIC suspension.
     
  14. really? last time I checked old cars are getting junked everyday because NO ONE WANTS THEM. there are only so many hot rodders. there is more supply than demand. I think if we had all the derelict classics in the world in one spot and started handing them out to hot rodders everyone on the hamb would have 5 extra cars. :p
     
  15. hydros.....awesome.....
     
  16. kami-cozzi
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    thank you for the critcism, both negative and positive. just one comment seemed a bit be-littling. but like you said, to think im not gonna get called on something questionable is ludicrous. so my apologies on the panty bunching.

    however i would never do this, especially to someone elses vehicle if i wasnt confident in the overall plan. plus O.G. is one of you stubborn old men, [​IMG] (thats a joke, no offense intended)

    so pursueding him to let me do things a certain way can be diffucult at times lol

    i always say, TO EACH HIS OWN, everyone has there opinion. and i value the opinions of those who paved the path for young men like myself




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  17. kami-cozzi
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    so heres the front crossmember, O.G. and one of his bomb buddies did this while i sectioned the frame.

    here hes raising the motor mount plate to compensate for the 1 1/2" frame section and oil pan clearance. the mounts are at angles, so he had to alter the bottom of the crossmember as well to re-align the holes.

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  18. resqd37Zep
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    You're making good progress. When it's all said and done you'll get all the Kudos you deserve.
     
  19. irondoctor
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    Ah I see. Have you checked on repalcement parts? Might be able to get rockers for it. Then you would have a vert and a coupe.
    Also not sure on Chevys but on other makes I have seen they add a lot of extra bracing to the rockers and door posts of convertibles.
     
  20. junkyardjeff
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    From what I seen of the convertible body it was worth repairing,you have not seen rust untill you visit the midwest and eastern states. That body was perfect compared to what is left of some of the cars around here.
     
  21. ESnacky6
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    Don't let the nay-sayers bring you down.... :rolleyes:

    I wanna see this car finished..!! Hydraulics and all..!!!

    (hopefully Aircraft hydraulics, not the new stuff)
     
  22. kami-cozzi
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    oh mercy, alot went on during this stage, i'll try my best to explain what we did here.

    first of all, this is A 5" drop spindle, fatman fab makes 2" drops for these, but O.G. wanted to make a 5. the reason it was done is because the lower a arm was recessed into the crossmember 1 3/4", also he wants to run 16" rims with a large profile whitewall, so he needs the spindle centerline heigth.

    the upper arm and shock assembly (not sure of the actual terminology, if you know feel free to tell) was raised 5" to match (the big round pipe, spring pocket if you will) to keep the geometry correct, and it also aids in coil spring clearance over his hydraulic cylinder. the more coil spring you can have, the softer the ride.

    the upper arm and shock was cut to clear the hydraulic ram protrudinging thru the spring pocket. later on were goin to fab up a new upper arm mount, this is just for mock up purposes.

    any questions??? lol or dare i ask?

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  23. kami-cozzi
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    i hear you guys on the rust repair. O.G. has i think 6 of these cars layin around outside, he wants to convert a coupe just for the challenge, (stubborn) n its honestly not much more work than it would be to cut up sections of the rockers and floors to try to piece the convertible back together. its kinda a coin toss,

    but the convertible is already in two halves, sorry[​IMG]





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  24. kami-cozzi
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    YUP PESCOS, AKA AIRCRAFT HYDRAULICS. O.G. specializes and sells em, thats why were building this car car, to showcase all his cool stuff
     
  25. kami-cozzi
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    here a front front view of the crossmember, this might make it a lil clearer

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    and a rear view


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  26. MistGreen50
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    I spotted a pesco 777 and an A6 tank in the cross member pic.I think this may be KnuckleHead Georges car and if it is,its getting aircraft lifts
     
  27. kami-cozzi
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    and heres how she looks down to earth, still rough, and a long ways to go, but it feels damn good to see it like this


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  28. MistGreen50
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    thats gonna look bitchen!
     
  29. sixinarowjoe
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    very cool i will have to keep checking back for more updates .
     
  30. nvr2lo
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    I really dig this build and I understand why he wants to lay rocker. Air craft hydraulics are cool as shit , if I go that route with one of my trucks that is what I want to use. Can't wait to see more progress.
     

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