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1951 Tudor Sedan Biosled

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by biosled, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. Stefan T
    Joined: Sep 15, 2008
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    Stefan T
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    from Sweden

    Biodiesel is cool
    I like the ide to do that
    I have drove my normal car on home breved biodiesel made from wast fryer oil
     
  2. butcherted
    Joined: Oct 17, 2006
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    great I like people thinking out side the box, I plan on using the same engine w/turbo in a 50 GMC suburban and pull a small camper.
    good luck great project.:):):):):):)

    Butcherted
     
  3. Orange Crate
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    You do know that you can fit the turbo off a 6 cylinder onto the 4BT.
     
  4. themodernartist
    Joined: Feb 16, 2006
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    Excellent thread!
    Keep us posted.
    Peace,
    Chaz
     
  5. ramaro
    Joined: Apr 1, 2007
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    ramaro

    this is really cool! someone really needs to make some finned aluminum valve covers for the 4bt.
     
  6. goldhunter_2
    Joined: Jan 10, 2010
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    very cool I'll have to keep a eye on this thread to . I am trying to decide on a diesel power plant now looking at Toyota, Nissan ,Mercedes 5 cyl, ***mins 6T and heard of the 4BT but couldn't find what they come in originally
     
  7. biosled
    Joined: Nov 24, 2008
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    from san diego

    This week I put in the step notch and upper bag plates. As you can see in the first picture I kind of had a brain fart and started welding the inside of the notch before I cut out the original frame section.:eek:
     

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  8. Nice to see something different. Please keep us posted on your progress.
     
  9. domepiece
    Joined: Nov 7, 2007
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    Awesome build. I wasted a great running 4BTA on a 91 suburban. I wish i still had it to put in my coronet.
     
  10. Artiki
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    Good work. A very practical solution.
     
  11. domepiece
    Joined: Nov 7, 2007
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    The 4bt or 4bta was used by chevy and ford in their stepvans. They are virtually the same as the 6bt with the front 2 cylinders cut off. They were also used in boats, skid loaders, generators and almost anything you can think of. Because they were used by all of the big three there are adaptors to go to any ****** you want. I would stay away from an auto though unless it came from behind a 6bt. I put a diesel 700r4 behind one and it just didn't make good use of the engines power.

    BTW you got one hell of a deal at $1400 for motor and ******.
     
  12. karskustoms
    Joined: Nov 13, 2007
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    kool ride keep up the work
     
  13. biosled
    Joined: Nov 24, 2008
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    from san diego

    I got the triangulated 4 link in this week. I dont think I have ever spent so much time doing "nothing." (measuring, ****yzing, measuring, adjusting, measuring, measuring, measuring). I think I got it right, but only time will tell. I rebuilt and ford 8 inch rear end out of a maverick. Threw some 2.79 gears in it and converted it to disc brakes with parking brakes. I am using Slam Specialties RE-8's for the rear and RE-7's for the front.
     

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  14. Bigcheese327
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    More like “HAMBurger and FRIES” club, given the exhaust scent promised a few posts above.

    Very cool project.

    -Dave
     
  15. wheelbilly
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
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    If you triangulated the lowers a little more, pushing the axle mounts out so that the inside edge of the mount, line up with the outside edge of the frame mount, you could probably get away without having to run a panhard. That's how I set up my old rock buggy and it performed like a champ. What's your vertical seperation look like?

    Putting together a 4 link can be frustrating, but I've seen it done where it's built to fit the space available, and I've seen it done, and done it myself, where you check the geometry and debate back and forth over minute adjustments, and both 'work'. Funniest is always the giant mounts with 15 different vertical mounting options...Can't tell you how many rigs I've seen where the arms get set and they never get adjusted.
     
  16. Very cool thread Nice to see someone who cares about the environment. Just messing with you but cool none the less
     
  17. domepiece
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    Looks good. I'd say you got it right.

    With the top bars triangulated he shouldn't have to run a panhard bar. The top bars will limit any side to side movement.
     
  18. Jalopy Joker
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    wow, wild rear notch, etc. comments by wheelbilly on this interesting. post more pics. remember that most of the country is much colder than SD, and not many have the shop room that you do-so need more to do indoors like watching projects like yours. Thanks
     
  19. Isn't that the whole point of running a triangulated set up? No panard bar. Looks great in the picture!
     
  20. biosled
    Joined: Nov 24, 2008
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    Yes guys. The whole point of a "TRIANGULATED" 4 link is that the top bars are triangulated to limit any side movement of the rear axle no matter what ride height is selected. A parallel 4 link uses a panhard bar to limit side to side movement at a specific ride height, but that still allows the axle to move side to side a tiny bit with change in ride height.
     
  21. Captain Freedom
    Joined: May 6, 2009
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    from Upstate SC

    Hey man I like this.
    Before you cut away that middle crossmember for driveshaft clearance look and see if there are any numbers stamped on top of (or somewhere around) it. They're supposedly you car's vin #.
    Keep updating.
     
  22. jgang
    Joined: Feb 22, 2009
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    from hamburg ny

    please keep us posted. ive been thinking about this in my 54 f100. really cool, thanks again.
     
  23. biosled
    Joined: Nov 24, 2008
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    biosled
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    from san diego

    All the shocks are in now as are the airbags. Had to notch out the front spring pockets to make room for the re-7's up front. Threw in a pic of the rear disc brakes. Decided to hoist up the ch***is to do some welding underneath and then test how low it will lay. Things are going good so far. Got my Accuair Level Pro system in the mail the other day and will start the install on that shortly.

    P.S. Captain Freedom..... were no numbers on that cross section, but thanks for the heads up.
     

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  24. Flathead26T
    Joined: Dec 4, 2008
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    I love 4bt's! they are awsome motors. i have wanted to put one into an early 50's chevy truck. $1400 is a great deal on that.
     
  25. mattcrp1
    Joined: Aug 20, 2007
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    anything new?
     
  26. BEAR
    Joined: Sep 10, 2007
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    where are the updates??????
     
  27. Adam.Perrault
    Joined: Nov 10, 2009
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    from Phoenix AZ

    I want to know more...
    Any more updates?
     
  28. no more updates on this thing?
     
  29. I too am wondering on updates....;)
     
  30. 21tat
    Joined: Jun 8, 2006
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    That's cool! I'll be watching progress too.
     

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