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Disc brakes covered with Buick drums,anyone done this?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Oldskool27T, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. Oldskool27T
    Joined: Jan 26, 2010
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    There is a Model T in Street Rodder that has them.If anyone knows how it
    would be appreciated.:confused:
     
  2. HATED1
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    so cal and numerous other places sell kits for this.
     
  3. chevyshack
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    He machined them. They where a one off. Im sure if you ran a small set of rotors and found a big drum to fit over them you might be able to make your own. I read the article and still think the design is flawed. brakes are going to over heat in stop and go traffic.
     
  4. stuart in mn
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  5. Fogger
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    Deuce Manufacturing, in San Dimas, Calif, was one of the first, if not the first, to put together the So Cal functional fake front brakes. They used to be sold by So Cal Speed Shop. So Cal now manufactures their own setup. Check the Deuce Manufacturing web site for the story.
     
  6. roddinron
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    I saw something once where a guy put some worn out Buick drums over some newer drums, and it looked great (in the pictures at least).
     
  7. Dreddybear
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    There was a car in one of the magazines a while back that ran Buick drums over uh...brake pads... with these funny things called backing plates. It looked awesome.

    :) I kid. you guys love me.
     
  8. resqd37Zep
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    I had a set on a Model A from Deuce Mfg years ago and they stopped fine. After a while it became all the rage and everyone had a set. So off they went and on went the 39 Zephyr drums. I still love the looks of Zephyr drums over the Buicks but thats a personal choice.
     
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  9. MR. FORD
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    Wow man, that sounds really crazy! For real?



     
  10. RichG
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    This is a traditional hot rod forum...oh, wait...
     
  11. fab32
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    You think that's awesome even further back they had this setup and ran the drums over BRAKE SHOES. the PADS hadn't even been invented yet.:eek::rolleyes:

    Frank
     
  12. Harms Way
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    You tell em' Frank ! :)
    (Frank is awesome,... but he's so old he farts dust ! :D)
     
  13. Hyway Hauler
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    Can anobody say "brake fade"? Why would you want to add more heat to your brakes? To look cool? I think that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Why is everybody stuck on "masking" modern components? If you want a real traditional rod...build one! Don't FAKE IT!
     
  14. stude_trucks
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    I tried to put a V8 inside a flat 6 once. Wasn't too successful.
     
  15. Oldskool27T
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    I think you mean brake shoes .later
     
  16. Dreddybear
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    Haha yeah, well we're back on the right track though. Allriiiiiight.
     
  17. V8 Bob
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    I have the So.Cal disc/Buick drum setup on my '32. I wanted front disc brakes, but did not like the looks on a traditional highboy roadster. Yes, I was skeptical of how a covered disc would perform, as I was in the brake testing business, but after I talked to Pete Chapouris at So. Cal I was confident their brake package would work OK on a non-fendered light weight hot rod. It is a very well designed system, using Wilwood vented rotors, calipers and special hubs with the option of 4 1/2", 4 3/4" or 5 1/2" bolt circles. The brakes work great, do not fade, and look much better than typical disc brakes, IMO.

    Calling something stupid, as Hyway Hauler did, without knowing what the heck you are talking about, is, well, stupid! To come on here or any other forum and bash a product or company out of ignorance is stupid.

    By the way, I am running a "real" Halibrand Q/C, and a "real" flathead, in a car I've spent the last 8 years bulding, although the body is one of those dreaded Brookvilles! Give me a frigin break!
    Bob
     
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  18. langy
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    I have the Rowdys Rodshop version which i think is a little better as it has the caliper at the front in the airflow, the thing thats amazes me about all these kits is that they have scoops for the air in but nothing for the air to get out again, i cut openings in the rear of my backplates and added stainless mesh, they work great


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  19. HOT ROD BILL
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    I had a buick/lincoln setup on my T coupe and it worked great. I moved this setup to a 34 I'm building and put disc on the T, stopping was just the same with both setups. This info might help if your wondering how the 2 compare. The Buick's cost more but look cool and the large size stop great. Besides who wants to reply "no they're just covers".
     
  20. Dreddybear
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    Thats the most convincing setup I've seen yet. Nice touch with the escape vents.
     
  21. I saw a homemade set up years ago where a guy had cut the iron liner out of a set of Buick drums and slid them over some sort of disk set up. Then he made a heavy aluminum "backing plate" to cover, (sort of) the thing from behind. I wasn't crazy about the look but I liked the ingenuity at the time. There are better options available now if you just have to have disk brakes in front.
     
  22. sixpac
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    I have the buick finned brakes with the 121/4 inch shoes she stops on a dime. With a 348 so she is heavy up front. Love the look
     
  23. resqd37Zep
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    If you want to run Disc and have it look conventional why not go the deep frying pan cover route? I've seen plenty of people take a deep sauce pan and cut it fit over their disc set up. It's something you could do from home, It doesn't cost $2000 to do it and it actually looks quite nice when it's done right. I'll see if I can dig up a picture.
     
  24. resqd37Zep
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  25. langy
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    Thanks mate.



     
  26. gimpyshotrods
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    For those thinking of modding a Buick drum for this, I recently destroyed a 90-fin aluminum drum in my 60-ton press. So if you want actual section dimensions, or information on exactly how they are constructed, let me know.

    I made an "exploded" diagram. Oops!
     
  27. 61bone
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    Langy
    Very nice way to negate the purpose of the scoop. It is supposed to force positive pressure air to flow around the shoes and drum. When the brakes are not applied, it also flows between the shoes and drum. The air then exits through the gap between the backing plate and drum, carrying heat with it. The extra vent makes the scoop a pretty piece of fluff.
     
  28. nutajunka
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    Cool brakes in more way's than one...;)
     
  29. panic
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    the PADS hadn't even been invented yet

    Disc brake invented by Dr. Lanchester, about 1906.
     

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