Give me a quick education on gassers

I'm just attempting to make a point. The "..if it's not a Willy's..." is like saying only Mercs should be sleds and only 29-34 Fords should be hot rods. Take a close look at cars and owners/builders that reside here. There are some top notch hot rods and customs that don't fit "the norm". Eric is an excellent fabricator who clearly understands flow and proportion, he just needed a little "visual stimulate" to help him see it. You were the first one to post on his thread telling him "..if it's not a Willy's..". you are en***led to your opinion, just don't expect everyone here to feel the same.

 

In the Photoshop pic I didn't do any mods to the truck. The pieces I stole to give it the "g***er look" are very blown out of proportion, thus the reason the box looks short. In reality you would have to shorten the box. I also stole the wheel openings which are heavily radiused and makes the truck look not as thick through the middle.

 

To compare the PSed image and what the poster said in the opening post, it appears the frame is shortened in addition to shortening the bed, which he stated, plus the front end goes up quite a bit, what I would call a "high boy." Not saying it can't be done, but the quick rendering you did seems to be more involved than the post. All that said, where does your big-***ted blonde comment fit into the picture?

 

check out thread "Pics Of G***er Trucks?"

Shawn

 

very well put mark. although they are good looking cars, i'm sick to death of seeing tri-five chevys turned into g***ers.

 

g***ers were cars that people had.not cars that people bought.they took what they had and modified it to{go fast}this has never changed.just now people just buy what they need insted of making what they have work!!!back in the 60s im sure there were alot of old farm trucks that wernt needed any more so they made them racecars.

 

tinbender,iyour truck looks *****en now and im sure when you get done it will be awsome.if you want to race it i would defenatly put a cage in it.its easer to do it during the build.i have gotten kicked off race tracks for going to fast without a cage.yeah some tracks will let you run it in special races but is it worth taking the chance?i have gotten alot of flack for my car.I DONT CARE!!!!some say its too new and not a g***er!but i have also had people and tracks let me run because "it's cool''.just build what you want and forget about the rest!!!

 

some of my g***er,altered whatever!who cares its mine and i like it!!!

 

If the wheelbase is modified....
It's actually NOT a G***er. It's Modified/Altered.

 

Do the truck any way you want. Its your truck. I like it now and I will like it with its nose in the air. Who cares if someone else doesn't like it? I don't like alot of what I see but does it really matter to the guy who built his ride the way he wanted to and drives it? No, not really.

There are some folks that protect the word "g***er" like it was the holy grail or act like you are disrespecting history. Now days, everything has to have a name and it has to be politically correct and factual or someone will get bent out of shape.

G***er..Altered..street freak, they are all cool to me.

 

G***er, altered, call it what you will. Chips second P/S rendering is very close to what I have in my mind. A little lower, more reversed rake. The bed is perfect. Thanks Chip. You do know how my brain works! I think that should scare me a little Or maybe YOU should be the one in fear.
Thanks everyone for the input. To some degree this will be fake. I'm ok with that, I just want it to be as accurate to the era as I can make it. I know a little about modern suspension. I've helped out a little with our race car at school. If I was to build a serious drag car, it wouldn't look anything like what were talking about. But as stated I think every car guy should own a "g***er inspired" car (can we call it that) or truck in this case at least once in there life. It's high on my list, and soon to be crossed off. Thanks to the people I've met on this board, I've crossed quite a few things off my list lately

James, don't take this wrong, but lighten up a bit buddy. I've seen a few of your posts, you tend to come off a little negitive at times. This is supposed to be FUN. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm having the time of my life right now. This project will only add to that. I'll keep gathering parts, and keep feeding my obsessive compulsive nature!

And Chip, whats wrong with fake ***ties?

 

LOL Eric! Nothing, unless you like going to a car show and seeing 100 RED plastic '32 Fords.

Ingenuity, creativity, and vision is what made this hobby what it is. Some have it... some don't...

 

Do what you want but why not just build a g***er from the ground up with another cab and frame instead of hacking up what appears to be a damned nice hotrod truck.
Those trucks are still pretty easy to find in decent shape in Eastern Washington for a reasonable price especially if it is just the body and ch***is.

 

It's torn down for some work, and is getting the 440 anyway. Any more cars at my place and I'll have to start stacking them on top of each other

 

Why don't you just save yourself a bunch of work and G***erize the motorhome? It has the same aerodynamic proportions as the Stude... You could be the first guy with a 9 second Winnebago!!! Oh, I have a pic of THAT too...

 

IMO, g***ers, as a featured show, died pretty quickly around 1974 or so. The exact date can be found by looking at the history of Pro-Stock cars. I ran a B/Gas car, 9.5's around 150, until the first slow ProStock cars were recl***ed as g***ers and altered. Those *******s ran in the 8's all day long and suddenly, old school cars were turned into yard art. It really ****ed the fun out of drag racing because there was no way to cut a full second off the time unless you went out and bought one of the slow cars and repainted it. Just like now, cubic dollars ruled the 70's.


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here is my herd of RACED g***ers. Not that they mean anything to you, just sharing.

IMHO, you should just build what you wish. Sounds like you are on the right track, perhaps a bit unique, but WHO CARES.

You may make a few mistakes along the way, but in the end, it will be cool.

The first mistake has already been made...you asked for opinions!

Enjoy and please keep us posted

 

Exactly. And the ***le of the thread was a quick education on g***ers, lol. An NHRA rulebook would be handy. And not being one to dis anybody's other rides, if a truck is made a g***er, (insert Dirty Thirty's cool Ford), then so be it.

 

"G***er" was an NHRA category. "G***er Look" is a loose description of what the original poster wants to do. His truck, he can and will do whatever he wants, as it should be.

That said, to me it's not a vehicle that would be a natural for "G***er Look" vehicle, however with high-boy elevation on the front and shortened w/b, and lots taken off bed length, there could be an positive effort for desired effect.

That in my view it's not being "negative," but hey, whatever.

If a guy gets on here with a 1967 F250 Camper Special asking same questions, would there be people saying that would be "cool?" Remember, that's an 8' bed truck. Don't be negative!

 

Yes i asked for a little education. I now know more than I did yesterday! Thanks guys for all your input. And James, I meant no offence.
I'm fine with altered, or altered style. I'm 98% sure this is the direction I'll take with this truck.
BTW, I know it's my truck, I will build it as I want. I wasn't looking for permission. Just information. I got a lot of it! I haven't asked for permission or begged forgivness since I showed the ex wife the door

 

Tinbender, maybe showing an ex-wife the door is the best thing a guy can do!

 

I think it will look great, call it G***er style or altered,(or call it the fun truck) shorten the box or not it will be cool
I liked it as it was and I will like it g***er style too.
and a 440 should make it fun and fast
build what you have in your mind and I bet it will be great. Ron...

 

As long as you are not trying to make a Stude look like a Willys by shortening the ch***is, I'm right with you.

Personally I believe that there are several styling cues that that need to be met to pull it off. There needs to be a lot of space in the front wheel wells. It doesn't have to be exaggerated just noticeable. A g***er needs a 3" steel pipe bumper with threaded cast iron screw caps on the ends and fender well headers. Lose the running boards and most of the creature comforts inside. Individual fibergl*** bucket seats and a 3 point roll bar.



My buddy Gary puts almost as many miles on this 39 as Denise in The Big Olds. It has all the above mentioned important styling cues. Slam it on the ground with a stock bumper and it's a completely different car. JMO

 

Well it worked out pretty well for me, but I hesitate to recomend it to everyone


Tommy, were the bumpers used for wieght in the rear? And no I'm not going to shorten it to look like anything else, to me it just needs it. One of the modifications the truck was torn down for was moving the rear end forword to put the wheels in the center of the box. It was something that always bothered me about the truck. I also switched the rear fenders to reverse them. That will stay that way, unless I go to a smaller fender like the pictured trucks. Cutting my fenders would be the only thing that would bother me.
All your sugestions are in the build plan!

 

that kadett rules

 

Early on, lead filled bumpers were around, for sure...later, the rules stopped allowing for "hidden" ballast.
Probably didn't do much to stop it, though...they usually don't!
Thats another thing to remember: A LOT of stuff that was a little loose on the interpretations of the rules laid out still found its way out to the track....Why? Because people we're looking for ways to bend them ****er's 'till they broke, then...just as much as they are now.
Any advantage that can be put past...Now THAT is traditional...at least for racing.
But, they would need to use discretion, so as not to be overtly in violation, at least.
The rules, if I recall correctly, required a rear bumper of some sort, or, in lieu of one, at minimum, a suitable push bar...
If I'm wrong, someone please correct me...
Enjoy your truck! Its cool...AND different...

 

My Heap gets some looks when I haul it to the track. Soon we will see if the bars are needed, just put 5 easy p***es on it, now time for a little thrashing

 

I would've wrote this early but I was thinking about. Oh well.

A g***er has

A straight axle but not always
A big block but not always
Radiused wheel wells but not always
Big slicks not always but extremely common.

As you can tell, the term g***er is a loosely based term. I don't see why your truck couldn't be a g***er. Everyone wants what was built back in the day. Thats why some people cant see it with that stance. Back then, someone probably ran one of those but it got no real exposure to end up in a magazine. Build it and be unique.

 

I think trucks can be g***ers.
Mines not there yet but is on it's way...



Wheels and tires are on the way...

 

I think that your comments hit the nail on the head. I've read and heard so many different opinions on what a g***er really is and no one seems to agree.
I'm building mine the way I want and to hell with what others think!
I AM HAVING FUN!