Ok Guys, Sorry: 368 Lincoln y-block Finally bought this toploader which came out of a 71' falcon. Main case reads "C8AR-7006-D". The guy whos rebuilding my 368 y-block (mostly stock) says that engine will be too much for that "tiny" transmission. He'd rather use a ZF instead of the toploader. Besides how popular toploaders are in the US they are the choice for many hotrodders down here (the ones that know it exists, most common trans are ZFs, Saginaws and BWs). He's a good mechanic, knows a lot but Im quite confused about what he might have experienced with toploaders in the past. What do you think ? Diego
71 Falcon?? If memory serves, wasn't that the last year for them, and weren't they el-cheapo base models in Torino bodies? Hard to imagine them having 4spds. And the # C8AR7006D is simply the casting # for the case, used for production Ford 4 speed trannies from '68 to '71 and service replacements for earlier models '65-'67. Best bet is to check the metal ID tag, they're usually riveted on one side of the trans, it tells what's inside. Should have something like RAT & some other #s on it, they can be interpretted in a Ford parts book to let you know what the trans was used in. (Seems like you had a similar post previously, like a month or so ago - am I mistaken?)
The only way that your engine should kill that transmission is if it is making 400+ hp on slicks or if you ever get a real bad wheel hop. Maybe then, but those transmissions are pretty stout. C8 date code means 1968 or early '69. Kevin Ooltewah Speed Shop
Yes raceron, It was taken from a 71' "Argentine" falcon. Toploaders were imported from the US for falcon futuras (70-72) and Sprint (73) , then Saginaws took its place. The transmission is a four speed fos sure, checked it inside. Thanks guys for all the answers. Im sure his wrong about the ****** and probably he's talking about another one.
On the photo,I see one shift lever facing up,one facing down,and reverse.Is that a 4 speed overdrive toploader?
It is a toploader but Im afraid the shifter is not properly installed. The middle lever moves when shifting to reverse. Is that ok or what ?
No way a Lincoln will break that ******. They were used in stock form in NASCAR until the '80s when Jericho edged them out (which is a toploader-based design).
For a second there i thought you built a stroker Ford Y block.....anywyas...just like everybody else said that ****** will work fine
Thaks guys. But could anybody tell by the picture if the levers are properly set ? Two of them are facing up and generally all toploaders pics I see have all facing up.
First you are not going to hurt that Top Loader - that's about the baddest 4 speed ever put in a production car - the "Ford 9" " of transmissions. As for your shifter linkage I think The first two levers should point up wards and the rear one down. So i would say your first one is upside down. If memory serves correct and the one in my 32 is any indication
Running a toploader close ratio in my 306 weiand blown falcon and cant say you will break the trany they are real tough and forgiving... fluilds up hammer down underhood 174 weiand
I thought the last year for an "American" Falcon was like '69. Aren't ZFs those gigantic, ugly modern truck 5 speeds? Your buddy might be a good mechanic, but I don't think he knows **** about ****, when it comes to toploaders. I love Y blocks, but I don't think a stock one would twist a toilet paper tube in half, let alone a later 4 speed. It looks like your shift pattern may be a little skeewompus, if that answers you question. Either way, good luck, those are badd*** transmissions, just be careful with reverse.
The "ordinary" top loaders were used in the 289's to 390's. Only the 427 and 428's had the heavy duty ones. Should last forever behind a stock 368 Lincoln.
Auto production outside the US was a lot different. some countries had "Local Content" laws, you might find Mopar Ford and GM sharing parts, Chrysled discs on a ford. Gm alternators everywhere.... Ford made fuel componts etc. ...Chalk the input shaft and the output then shift into various gears and figure which way to put the linkage together. When you have everything together the right way you should have the levers in neutral and be able to stick a 1/4 inch drill bit smoth shank thru the hole in the bottom of the shift lever and thru the shifter arms.
Toploaders were THEE ****** used in NASCAR until Jericho came on the scene. The Jericho is basically a re-designed & updated, modular Toploader. It'll handle your engine - no sweat.
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