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side steer - lets see those setups!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by John "MASK" Maschke, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. trying to figure a way to mount and setup my side steer....suggestions pics...andything....the pitman arm needs to be in the 12:00 position...

    box suggestions???
    mounts??

    who has done this...good and bad points?? how does it look and drive...

    a pic is worth a thousand words...

    thanks everyone...

    here is the car its going to mount on..

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  2. i have been told to use a mustang box, a vega, and even a corvair....but i want to see how others have set these up!
     
  3. HotRodFreak
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    F-1 box and column mounted. Will sell Complete ch***is and drive train $4600.
    russ.32@hotmail.com 559-269-1273
     

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  4. HotRodFreak
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    60's Mustang box is an excellent side steer option.
    Vega is cross steer. Corvairs are too puny for most cars.
     
  5. woodman
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    If you reverse the Corvair box or even the Vega box you do not have to have the pitman arm at the 12:00 position. Just a thought.
     
  6. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    71 volvo aluminum box.
     

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  7. also - read the thread about bump steer -- any one drive these things.. lots of good avice there too
     
  8. roddinron
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    Man I like that Volvo box, might be gettin' a little rare though.
     
  9. Comon he asked for 12 o'clock position and all the replys show 6 o'clock.
     
  10. 265glide
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    VW bus steering box on mine,mid '60's I think.The bracket mounts to the frame and the box is attached thru a bore on mount and clamped with two bolts,this allows some up/down adjustment on the column.
    later,glider
     

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  11. Fenders
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    Early Mustang box would be upright 12 oclock. May have to grind off the detents in the pitman to get exactly 12 oclock at straight ahead...

    65 66 has long column (just cut it) I think the later ones are short shaft out of the steering box....
    Either will work.
     
  12. 067chevy
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    I used a vega box and mounted it upside down. Worked great. I'll see if I can find some pictures.
     
  13. tubman
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    It seems to me that I've seen a few threads about this over the years on here that have covered this; one thing I remember is that the drag link should be parallel to the ground.
     
  14. I have a '67 Mustang box with integral shaft you can have if you need one. I'm just up the road near Fergus. I have family in Georgetown.
     
  15. RMR&C
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    I'm using a VW bus box, it drives good....they are easy to mount too, they bolt on.[​IMG]
     
  16. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    I run my tie-rod behind the spindle, hence the 6 o'clock position. if you run in front, it would be 12 o'clock. from the looks of his frame, i'd bet he's running a frontside set-up.
     
  17. 067chevy
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    I think he's talking about the piman arm staight up is 12 o'clock and down is 6 o'clock. Has nothing to do with the spindle.
     
  18. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    tie-rod behind axle 6 o'clock, tie rod in front of axle 12 o'clock. if you want your car to turn right when the steering wheel turns right, it does.
     
  19. Stock box remounted...drives nice.
     

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  20. RMR&C
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    ?????? What does the tie rod have to do with it? Unless you mean cross steer? 6 o'clock or 12 o'clock depends on the way your steering box turns.....as you can see in my pic above, 12 o'clock pitman and tie rod behind....
     

  21. yup....its out front of my spindles....
    so i think i have to run the pitman arm in the 12:00 position...

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    thats awesome bud thanks! ill check it out, and see if that might work for me....ill be at performance world too, if your going....ill be there pinstriping all weekend... nice to meet more people close to me...
     
  22. slippery dave
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    I am running a reversed corvair box on my 27 T but you could run a cowl mount very easy and it would be out of the way of you engine.
    Dave
     
  23. tedley
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    I used a 66 Mustang steering box in my A but it's a one piece steering shaft. Thinking about a 67 which uses a rag joint so i can dial in the steering column a bit better but not sure it will work on my existing box mount.
    Sorry the box isn't mounted in the pic but you can see the box mount integral with the 4-bar bkt.
     

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  24. Fro
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    model A box relocated, probably to light duty for you but it works great on my light car.
     

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  25. HotRodFreak
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    VW bus boxes are good.

    Another option not commonly used is from 55-59 Chev pickup.
    Excellent strong gears and turning ratio.
    When Mounted through stock hole in 32-34 frame it doesn't look out of place,
    and shaft spline accepts early Ford pitman arm.
    They are cheap at swap meets.
     
  26. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    SHEESH! with a 71 volvo box mounted on top of the frame rail. the pic i sent, thats the way it works. there's more than one way to skin a cat. there are a ton of ways to do it.
     
  27. RMR&C
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    OK, that makes sense now....sorry for jumpin on ya. Still don't get the tie rod thing though....
     
  28. doctorZ
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    same one i'm using. haven't had a chance to drive it, but i have friend's with them and i have never used a steering box that was easier to set up.
     
  29. Fenders
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    I had the same box with long shaft, I just cut the shaft off short sorta close to the box and welded on a U-joint ( from speedway)....
     
  30. 117harv
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    It makes no differance where the tie rod is with side or cowl steering. If it is behind the axle it pushes the right tire when turning left, if it is in front it pulls the right tire when turning left.

    Pitman arm up is good for low frames, pitman arm down works good with higher frames or cowl steering.
     

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