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Fuel proof rubber hose, or 90 degree steel source needed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MercMan1951, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. MercMan1951
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    Hi all...

    I am in need for either 2" I.D. Fuelproof hose, or the supplier of someone who fabricates 2" tubing in tight 90 degree radii. Real tight.

    I saw on TV that Jessie James buys 2 inch steel doughnuts to help fabricate his custom exhausts...that might work. No idea where they came from and he wouldn't say for fear of copycats...but I ain't makin' an exhaust, and I don't own a bike. But I don't make Autozone commercials, either.

    Basically, exhaust tubing would fit the bill, but the "90 degree" elbows they offer at the local stores are to "big" to be used. Overall legth is somewhere around 10 inches. I need a 90 degree bend that is no longer than about 4 inches in overall length...(needs to be TIGHT), kinda like a copper plumbing elbow but made of regular steel...and 2" around. Any thoughts?

    Oh, yeah...it's for connecting my fuel filler tube to my filler inlet. I need 2 of 'em. There's a TECH article buried in here someplace if I ever get this done.

    Thanks guys-
     
  2. noboD
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    Try McMaster- Carr for the hose, they have a site.
     
  3. Mutt
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    Get some straight tubing from the muffler shop. Make 45* cuts and weld together to make a 90* bend.

    Mutt
     
  4. fuel pump
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    There are several types of fuel proof hose. High pressure (for EFI) and low pressure. There is also a type for in the tank applications where both the inside and outside are fuel proof. Any auto parts store should carry them
     
  5. MercMan1951
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    But 2" in diameter???
     
  6. MercMan1951
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    Yeah, I had an "elbow pipe", I pie cut it with one big V notch and bent it in, and I didn't like it. The outside went flat. Maybe I should use the carpenters trick like you suggest, and make a bunch of cuts, then bend in as needed and weld....Thanks for the idea.
     
  7. fuel pump
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    You should be able to find filler neck hose that's about 2".
     
  8. stealthcruiser
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    good luck mercman,
    been trying to find some for my sons p/u truck(imported),
    all the fuel proof stuff i find in 2" is wire reinforced.
    that means forget about a 90,not even a 45.

    shit is too tough for a worm gear clamp to tighten up on!

    post it if you find a source plz.
     
  9. InPrimer
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    you might try a boat store, they sell fuel hose by the foot.
     
  10. krooser
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    There's a hot rod exhaust supplier (name?) that sells the donuts and other shapes...advertises in street rodder and others...search for "hot rod exhaust"...maybe you'll get lucky...
     
  11. Chuck Fish
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    If you try a short 90 bend on non-reinforced hose it will collaps in the bend. Try a local small plane air port or a good quality speed shop that deals with top fuel or NASCAR stuff.

    Chuck Fish
     
  12. Bruce Lancaster
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  14. MercMan1951
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    Thanks Bruce, that's what I'm looking for.

    I want clean, i didn't want to have to resort to rubber...

    for those who need similar: I remember 1963 Impalas had a rubber joint between the tank and the filler...maybe that will help...

    The pic I show here explains the need for 2 very tight 90 degree bends...otherwise, I'm putting my filler neck out into the trunK area!

     

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  15. FEDER
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    Could Ya just cut out the door and fill .then move them up and forward on the fender? Looks like where its located now will be a real bitch to fill. FEDER
     
  16. Dirty Dug
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    If you continue the way you're headed you'll spend 45 minutes at the gas pump. The mother with three kids on their way home from the soccer game are gonna be pissed. Take FEDER's advice or buy a Mustang tank that will fit flush with the floor of your trunk. dug
     
  17. Jethro
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    Try a structural welding place that does handrails. There are all sorts of angles available in different sizes and different materials. handrail stuff
     
  18. MercMan1951
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    I thought about that, but that would have looked out of place having a fuel filler door stuck in the middle of the quarter. I've already got the Lincoln door tacked in, and as long as I can make the bends, it will work...
     

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  19. MercMan1951
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    One of the reasons I went with this chassis swap was the HUGE trunk it provides, because the stock Lincoln tank is behind the backseat, sandwiched between it and the back wall of the trunk. If I go Mustang, I lose my deep floor and have even more fabricating to do.

    I don't see why it would take longer to fill up, are you referring to the pressue relief getting triggered by the tight bends?
     
  20. 40Tudor
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    That's the problem. Similar setup on my '40 Ford - two tight 90° bends. Lucky if I can pull the pump handle far enough to catch on the first stop.

    Not all that fun, but not that big a deal, either IMHO.

    Would it be possible to modify the tank (move the filler neck closer or pointing more directly to the door?

    Probably not worth major chassis alterations, but something a tad more involved than 2 90s might be worth considering.

    Just my $.02
    Chris
     
  21. Put a 1-1/4"pipe/tube inside the entire2"ID filler kneck from the cap to the tank.....that way it will flow right in without the GLURK GLURK [​IMG]and the long wait between pump squirts!
     
  22. manyolcars
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    mebbe start at the door with a serious angle pointing at your tank?
     
  23. MercMan1951
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    Can't start angling it out too much from the actual opening at the door, it's got a plastic housing behind it...will have to either be tank modification, two 90 bends, or relocating the door to the middle of the quarter (that's where the stock tank filler location will be.

    I like the idea of changing the location of the inlet on the tank, but that would require angling the hole more, and it won't really accomplish much in my situation. Too much angle on either the door side or the tank side puts the long filler pipe out into the trunk area, which to me is worse than a slow fill problem... [​IMG]
     

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  24. MercMan1951
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    CHOPRODS: That might work well!
     
  25. Duuuuh....You talkin to me? [​IMG]
     

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