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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Karl Fields, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Karl Fields
    Joined: Jun 5, 2007
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    So the deed is done and the R&P is installed!
    Unfortunetly, there doesn't seem to be the clearance to mount a P/S pump on the block.
    Can a p/s r&p be run without the p/s part? Just fill it with fluid and cap the lines off - or run the lines into each other?
    Thanks
     
  2. 325w
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    Heard of it being done that a way. I never did it. Can't see why it wouldn't work just like a non power rack.
     
  3. plymouth1952
    Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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    whats the issue with mounting? I did this on my 52 and had to make mounts it was worth every sec spent
     
  4. Karl Fields
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    Just that I wanted to mount fairly out of the way, not real obvious. Place I chose and made mount for, well the edge of the pump hits the frame :(
     
  5. stealthcruiser
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    I believe you need to loop the lines to each respective inlet and outlet, so the fluid will have someplace to go, and not try give a hydraulic lock.
     
  6. Ebbsspeed
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    What kind of power steering pump were you going to use? Some of them are very small nowdays, especially if you use a remote reservoir. I'm using an aluminum Saginaw of some form or another off of a mid 90's Corvette in my New Yorker, other than the pulley the pump fits in the palm of my hand. Reservoir is tucked behind the radiator support, out of sight.

    FYI, I agree that you need to loop the lines if you run a p/s r&p without the pump.
     
  7. Hackerbilt
    Joined: Aug 13, 2001
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    Theres a hydraulic control valve in the input that uses a small torsion bar to keep it on center. Without hydraulic pressure you'll have vague steering as the torsion bar isn't strong enough to resist heavier than normal inputs without bottoming the unused control valve.
    Can you drive it...Yes.
    Will you like it...maybe not...but you will get used to it I guess.

    Why not just get a non-power rack???
     
  8. UA_HoBo
    Joined: Dec 16, 2009
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    from Oswego NY

    Get a manual rack. The power rack with out the hydro pump hooked up is harder to trun and the reaction time is considerably slower
     
  9. UA_HoBo
    Joined: Dec 16, 2009
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    from Oswego NY

    an other note is look at pumps for difrent types of race cars some of them are very small
     

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