BEATNIK - Dobby Gillis Show

the engine in the '27 T Roadster in the aforementioned episode was a late 371 or early 394 Oldsmobile and the transmission was a '37 Cad Lasalle top shift

 

Nothing to do with this, but I used to work in a shop with a (normally clean shaven) guy that showed up after his vacation sporting chin whiskers. One of the other mechanics instantly dubbed him 'Maynard' which stuck. We called him that from then on.

 

Yep. And punk was partially a backlash to hippies. I love the Beats, but hate hippies. Go figure.

The Dobie Gillis show came out after the true Beats had moved on. By the time mainstream culture got hip to what the Beats were throwing down, they were somewhere else. The Maynard character was a cleaned up, commercialized, Hollywood version of a Beatnik. Of course, by then, that was really cool. The same thing happened with hippy culture. Hollywood and the rest of the country adapted the "look" but not necessarily the ideals.

But that doesn't answer your question.

 

Beatniks, hippies and hotrodders do share one common idea....they don't like being stereotyped!

 

Beatniks do NOT equal hippies. Some beat ideas became hippy ideas, some became motorcycle clubs.

One big aspect about beat culture was the open road, and beatniks, HDs and rods were definitely part of that culture.

 

Marty Hollmann's 1915 T-Bucket appeared in an episode of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis -- don't know if Maynard ever drove it, though.


Sure wish I'd had $2500 back in late '62! (see end of movie)

 

A bit OT, but the rich kid in Dobie Gillis, Chatsworth Osborne, Jr's *mummy* was always buying him a new blue sports car.......

CB

 

the girl that was obsessed with Dobie Gillis was Zelda Gilroy ... the character was played by Sheila James who came out the closet as a lesbian a while back ... great show, I was a young teenager and madly in love with Tuesday Weld ... who wasnt ?

Joe

 

That episode from the Beverly Hillbillies was one of my favorites. I remember when "granny" talked about smokin crawdads and they ***umed it was some sort of weed and got all excited.

 

This thread could get rather serious of we let it. Originally there was what was called the Beat Generation, which poets and writers like Ginsberg and Kerouac belonged. The term really had to do with feeling 'beat', as in tired, worn-out. Beatniks were of a somewhat younger generation (college students of the late 1950s) who took the ideas of the Beats and added other bits to it, e.g. the goatees and turtlenecks (the guys), long, loose sweaters and leotards (the gals), West Coast jazz, espresso coffee, etc. The 'Beatnik' term itself came from a journalist who was critical of these non-conformists.

I always wanted to be a beatnik, but was too young back then.

I really don't recall beatniks and rodders ever mixing; in fact it was very much the opposite. Strangely, some of the rev-heads in high school back then took on some of the beatniks' uniform in the early 1960s...

End of the anthropology lesson...

 

My parents. especially my mother watched Dobie Gillis, ergo, I didn't at first because everyone knows that and 11 year old couldn't possibly like what his parents liked on TV.
I think my mom liked it because when she was a child her Dad owned a grocery store and they lived in the residence above the store, just like the Gillis family did.
Dobie gillis was what they call in TV land a "Situation Comedy."
That means all the characters are basically characters/cartoons of what might be real people.
Maynard G, my hero eventually, was a cartoon of a beatnik.
Even in the roll he was just a kid play acting what he thought was the roll.

I have the same opinion of what "beatniks" were/are that I have of what "Hippies" were/are.
They were both myths invented by the news medias of the time and anyone who actually fit what was supposed to be the definition of either would vehemently deny being labeled one, or being labeled anything.
Kerouac didn't want anything to do with the media invention either, even though he supposedly coined the term "beat generation".
As far as there being a beatnik "character type" other than using lots of mind altering chemicals, there wasn't a lot of commonality.
For instance, Kerouac and Ginsberg were friends and usually both lumped into the "beatnik" definition by the media, yet Kerouac was married several times and Ginsberg was openly Gay, Kerouac politically was a WF Buckley type of libertarian while Ginsberg was a Communist.
About the only thing these two "beatniks" had in common was they were both writers and slummed with the same crowd.

Someone mentioned Tuesday Weld, My teenage heart (and other parts) throb.
I fell in live with her and her 12 tight cashmere sweaters in "Lord Love a Duck"

When I was a teenager, ('61-'67) I had a "beatnik pad" bedroom. Mom sewed up a coffee house style Red & White checkerboard table cloth for my desk and dresser and I had candles in empty wine bottles on them for center pieces. I have a picture from back then of all my custom model cars lined up on the checkerboard on site here someplace.

It was just for FUN though.
It was room decoration because I'd outgrown the cowboy curtains and the race car curtains went away in the So. Cal. sun so "coffee house was pretty much just a movie set.
I never really thought of myself as a Beatnik and vehemently denied being a Hippie even though I had waist length hair.
I had the hair when I was loading trucks on the docks.
What hippie would be a dock worker would be a hippie....?

 

You said it, woodhawg. Pretty cool hangin' out with old guys...ain't it? LOL. Especially guys that enjoy remembering how things really used to be, instead of some ill-conceived misinterpretation. Pretty cool that so many here not only enjoy and share old cars, but also a lot of other cool old stuff...old cars, music, houses, furniture, movies, TV shows, ethics, etc. Some younger folks make fun, but it's good to have a certain respect for all that's come before. The hamb proves its awesomenessism once again. Nothin' like sitting around, shootin' the breeze with 100,000 folks with such widely-varied backgrounds...including the young-whips. Everybody contributes something, and we all benefit from it. Where else can you get this? So cool. LOL!

 

The term "beatnik came from the beat generation, and the sputnik satellite( both were far out?!) Hot rods/customs had been around some time before the term. So the real question is, how did hot rodding influence the beats? Endsville daddy-o.
Oh, and kookie was more of a hipster.

 

You cats need to quit trying to pigeonhole people into groups that did this, that and the other. Relax daddy-o, Skoopy loopy koo! Skippitty dippitty wah wah wah!Like, dig that jazz, daddy-o! ****... I dropped my joint.

 

You guys are weird.

 

I think the gillis's delivery truck was a 40 ford sedan delivery .The show was great & real popular.Anyone rememebr the episode with the giant chicken?
JimV

 

You're sorta queer yourself.

 

i do still have my bong-o drums?coooooool

 

Wow! I forgot that. When I saw that in a couple of episodes, I really wanted one! (the Sedan Delivery, not the chicken).

 

Uhh..............no.

 

My older sister was a Beatnik type and looked identical to the girl second from the right in this photo . I was never a Hippie,just a long hair that jacked up Hippies to steal their pot.
I liked watching that silly show,I was in Junior HS then and thought the snooty girl played by Tuesday Weld was a hottie

 

I may be wrong, but didn't Tommy Ivo appear a couple of times? Seems like he had a drag race (stunted for Chatsworth) against Dobie. Ah, sweet memories.

 

Wasn't "TV" Tommy Ivo a regular in the "My Little Margie" series, hence the nickname.

 

Like your there daddy-o

 

The show's correct name was:
The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

Does anyone remember the episode when Maynard sits under the hood and pretends to be the engine?

 

The Hipsters have outlived both the Beatniks and the Hippies.

They walk a**** us still!

Look At This F***king Hipster!

 

Girl in the back is HOT!! Even by todays standards!
But then again so are the other babes.
JimV

 

cool thread man ...only on the hamb

 

The Barristardization of the Chrisman Bros 196 mph Bonneville coupe ...