Demon / Edelbrock tri-power

Got to say looking from the outside, why not send the carb in they offering free shipping and check??? Wouldn't that answer your questions? I am all for customer service and usually take the customer side but here you are going by a third party's word in regards to what is going on(speed shop).

Not too many Co's actually answering and offering help on web sites especially where you are bad mouthing them. If your speed shop is taking 4 weeks to diagnose a carb issue you might have your answer. If the carb is found to be bad from BG and is their fault bash away and let us all know of the issue. On the other hand if you find it isn't the carb than also let us know as you have the attention of a couple hundred potential customers. Send the carb in and post pics before and have BG post pics of what they get when dis***embled and put and end to any ******** claims.

 

In all fairness, I thought that I should give this some closure (hopefully). I also need to make a partial apology. My speed shop, working with Brandon from Speedway, have found that the Edelbrock manifold was the problem, not the Demons. So, I apologize for bad-mouthing the carbs.

To clarify though, it was the confrontational at***ude of the BG customer service I found so frustrated and the lack of willingness to work with me. At that time it strongly appeared to my shop and Speedway that the primary carb was malfunctioning. The truck had been in the shop for 2-3 weeks at that point and I felt that they could send a new carb rather than offering to have me ship it back, have it tested, re-ship it, etc while the truck sat in the shop for who knows how long, and an already staggering amount of trouble-shooting hours invested.

Brandon at Speedway decided to eat the carb and send me a new one which is very appreciated. Cylinder #7 was still being dropped even if you blocked the other intake ports and placed the primary on the rear port. We put a 4 bbl manifiold and carb on the truck and it ran perfect. Something with the Edelbrock is not allowing #7 to be fed. Instead of me battling with Edelbrock, Brandon told me I could send the entire kit back to him for a full refund. Brandon's at***ude and great customer service is greatly appreciated and I thank him for his continued concern for the situation.

 

Hey guys, I have 2 of the BG carbs and never had a problem with them.. 1st one I bought was Barry Grant "Gold Claw" with the interchangable venturi sleeves and boosters.. (One of my favs) and the other, a 750 Speed Demon that I use on the street. Those are both great carbs. It would help if you guys used a vacuum gage when setting the idle on those carbs. Once tuned with a vacuum gage, I was able to dial down the idle rpm on a V8 too 300 rpm without stalling the motor. That's less than half of the required idle rpm setting on any given V8 motor.. To me, that's a quality carb. Bottom line.. Always use a vacuum gage and a tach when adjusting the mixture screws to set your idle.

 

Ok, another final word My speed shop owner spoke to the people manning the Edelbrock vending at Goodguys last weekend. They said that the small block Chevy tri-power manifold is the same design they've used for decades. They did say that they have had many problems with the Demon carbs on their manifold though. This would tend to put credence on what Demon's tech told my speed shop originally (then later denied saying), that the Demons would work better on an Offy manifold.

Anyway, alot of cross finger-pointing, but the bottom line, (and a very expensive one for me), avoid using the sbc Edelbrock manifold with the Demon 98's.

 

P.S. went with Vintage Speed (Charlie Price) Offy manifold with Rochesters and it runs great!! Sometimes you just have to stick with proven old school.

 

woo hoo!

 

FIREPIG...something that caught my eye. you said it drops cylinders randomly. and you also said STOCK cam. i'am not sure this means anything, but it could. maby to much fuel for the cam. gap your sparkplugs to 50 thousands, and see if this helps. good luck my friend...POP.

 

Actually I had thought it was random from my initial report from the speed shop, but it was only #7 cylinder. Even if you plated the front and middle intakes and put the primary on the rear intake ports.
Anyway, on a great tip from TUDOR to go to Charlie, it's now running great!

 

FIREPIG...that's great to hear. all thing's considered the demon carbs must have been out of wack. and 1 observation i see. RATROD STEVE you could tone down your at***ude. nobody can trouble shoot very well on the computer. but we do our best to help our brothers. and if you can't see this, well then maby your not worthy of being 1...POP.

 

Don't cherry pick information. That was a suspected problem but not the cause. If you want to reference the post, please comment on all of the facts, not just those that make your case look better. Feel free to add the part of that thread where I posted that I had nothing but problems with the Demon before that incident.

The only damage from shipping was the result of poor packaging. Does Jegs package your items?

Check any email with that domain. There are 5 or 6 that I might have used. Since I never received a reply on the pre-purchase request forward that again as well. That same email address is still in use.

No thanks, it's a door stop.

 

I wouldn't expect them to say anything different as (1) they are a compe***or and [2] they are coming out with their own 3 bolt carb. With that said I think the bottom line is if you cant do the work yourself make sure whoever you carry the car to is capable of doing so and not keeping it a month trying to figure out something they dont have a clue diagnosing to begin with.

I can count on less then both hands the number of Demon 98's that have been back in for warranty repair and a couple of those were completely messed up by the installer who posts on this board. There are thousands of others out there that work fine and with that intake to boot.

 

oh man...the DRAMA still continues...drop it already. There is good and bad in any and all products we use, people who make/sell them, and people who install/use them. This gets old................

 

Jesus! My speed shop is one of, if not the best in my area. Go back and read the entries. Your own guy told us that the Demons didn't work well on the Edelbrock and to trade it for an Offy! We tried two brand new primaries with the same results! Please! No more! Quit arguing and start trying to help someone. That's what customer service is supposed to do.
The only person I've been able to count on was Brandon from Speedway who had to eat the whole kit.
From this point on, talk to the hand.
I apologize to 333 Half Evil and to the rest of you for dealing with all these threads including my own.

 

There are some that cannot be helped regardless and I'll leave any other comments directed to you at that.

We are not the only ones in this thread questioning why your speed shop kept it so long after all this is not rocket science.

In regards to you claiming one of our guys said that I am calling BS!!! as we would not. Although our AeroRam will be more efficient because of its equal length runners there is NO reason why these carburetors won't work on the Edelbrock piece and MANY others have had no issues as this is a piece Speedway sells as well as a handful of others.

To those out there that need and can be helped we will continue to be here and all you need to do is contact us.

 

haha.. you should try dealing with it every day between those bolting carburetors on backwards to others that have no idea how to even set a float level or change jets and rely on others to do it for them only to find out a lot of shops don't either.

There are plenty of guys on this board who can do this in their sleep but you will always have one or two that shouldn't get anywhere close to a car.

Best one we have had lately was the guy who set his carb on the studs and hooked up the fuel line to see if his new motor would start. Timing was off 180 and since the carb wasn't bolted down it blew off the intake and out into the yard when it backfired. Yes he called to complain... guess it's a good thing HE didn't have a computer or we would prob be reading a thread about it as well.

 

You mean the way that you did with my post?

Do you really think this makes your employer look better?

I still have not received an email containing the pre-purchase info you said was sent, nor any of the other email that you claimed must have been sent.

 

Brilliant way to talk about your customers!

 

And you have yet to supply me with a different email to search for it as I have already told you the ONE email from that address was answered. At this point you are just trying to stir the pot and nothing else otherwise you would have forwarded me the email you claim to have never gotten a response to .

 

Please use the same email address that you already have for the pre-purchase. You may also look for any other address with the same domain, as I stated earlier.

 

As I stated there are many on this board that are fully competent to work on their own stuff and others but just because a guy has a speed shop or a repair shop does not automatically qualify them same as just because someone owns a set of tools that does not make them a mechanic. Many of the guys on here know exactly what I am talking about.

There is nothing wrong with having somebody else work on your car but the guys who have that done need to be aware not all shops are the same and they could be taken advantage of. Our advice is to ask around and see who their buddies are using and with what results.

 

You guys need to get a life. I see some legitimate complaints and a company rep who goes on and on and doesn't know when to shut up.

Also one who won't accept responsibility for any part of poor customer service.

I know who not to deal with to be sure. I certainly won't deal with someone who makes post after post about how right he is and how stupid or incompetent and wrong his customers are.

 

Jesus, 3 pages of whining and complaining, Enough already. Moderators please make it stop since they can't stop whinning!!!!!!!

 

I guess you didn't get it. When you are in business, It is probably not wise for the mfgr. of the product to make such statements, let alone the tech rep for the company. Worse yet, is making these statements in a thread with the company name in the ***le. It's just not too smart.