Why are Transbrakes cheating ???

Rule # 1 when building a RACE CAR...........find a cl*** to race it in first...read the frickin rules, and then build it to MEET those rules. Man I have heard ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ON NOSTALGIA RACING.........and it simply is ..........by the rules, whomever, whatever, wherever they are made that the event is sanctioned by.........they ain't gonna change the rules for ONE car..............most will allow the t-brake to be in the car...just disconnected...........some don't want it in at all........ask where ever you are planning on going FIRST.........

..and a powerglide?...........rather have a sister in a ***** house.

M.

 

ardmore is cool with it just no 2 step and delay! or you can stick around after the nostalgia races and plug in the box and get that *** waxed by a 4.50 dragster? did i hear you say you had a power glide? is a turbo shaft or a glide shaft i may have a converter or know someone who does p.m me if i can help!

 

I know that nobody gives a **** what I think, but in my opinion ALL such transbrakes, delay boxes and other such **** should be banned from then AND now!!!

 

Well Back to the original question: Why are Transbrakes cheating ???

In the bracket racing world in footbrake cl***, Transbrakes are considered electronics mainly due to their programmable of release times for the ****on itself. Most Nostalgia events outlaw them because it wasn't that way back then. I am not 100% sure but I think some Nostalgia events allow them.

I race a lot of footbrake races, don't have electronics in my car for chit except a rev limiter. I think ALL starting line aids should be eliminated for auto and Stick cars.

 

i cant tell anyone how to build or what to put in there car,,, but pushing a ****on to leave the line is pretty lame.....

 

i can't say much because i work on a lot of bracket cars to each his own? But YOU see what i drive just out of shear bordom! Let off the ****on took 5 out of the box should have a double o light shift at 7200 covered the guy stomp the brakes! Yaaaaaa! I say side step that ***** and hope either the back bumper drags or the track guy helps clean up all the parts!!

 

Its actually more envolved than you think .I dont stick it on the mat an just drop a ****on.I have to creep up with my foot on the foot brake ,then break the prestage ,then stop and kick in nuetral ,blow it out ,creep up till i break the last stage light ,mash the ****on ,take my foot off the foot brake ,rev it to 3000 (no more no less),try and time my thumb a split second after my foot to floor it ,and keep in mind the starter guy wont wait .Sometimes the lights are already coming down while im trying to get all that done and bring the rpm's up.Also keep in mind that its hard to try and stage the depth you want because the car backs up a smig when you mash the ****on and engauge reverse .If your not staged deep enough it will roll out of the last stage light when you engauge the TBrake .I bet you 100 bucks that you would mess up one part of it or another trying to launch the first time (proly a bunch of times) you staged my car.Its easier to stage and launch with a 4 spd stick ( i know cuz i have done that as well ) .More envolved than just pushing a ****on .Foot braking and clutching is easier ,and im speaking from expierence here...

 

You are correct about the "nobody gives a **** part" .Thats not what this thread is about.I bet you have never drove a car with a Tbrake...

 

Is nostalgia racing all about pushing ****ons..... NOT.... I don't really care for trans brakes, however; I still beat them (although not all the time) and enjoy every minute of it. If I loose, oh well, still having FUN....

Where I race there has never been an issue of a trans brake..

I love foot braking against cars equiped with a trans brake....

It was mentioned above regarding convertors built by FRANK LUPO, amazing product, that is exactly what I have......

I think it is all about your little ****on and original cars did not have little ****ons to ***ist with launching the car...

 

i dont understand what the big deal is about usind a t brake?when i built my car i knew i had to have one {and wanted one}.i only had rear drums and untill they were alittle warm it wouldnt stop it in a 5 mph wind!i went to a race that wanted to have some nos.style racing and to put on a good show for the crowd.then they told the guys to do some funnycar style burnouts past the tree to wow them.then they said no t-brakes?WTF???if i try to leave off the brakes there will be no wheels up,and then not as good of a show.

 

i dont race to win i just race to have fun.if i do go a couple of rounds than great!!last year i went 4 rounds during a gambelers race{which i only went in because my friend paid for because he showed up late for the time trials}.the guy that beat me has a delay box and 2 stepp.now thats bs but whatever!!!i ran .03 off my dialin and he ran .009 off his with a .03 difference it reaction time{his was better}

 

I don't nostalgia race but from what I can see for the most part it is a modern race car with an early looking body on it. But I ***ume that in your case that isn't true. Maybe it isn't true at all in the gas cl***es.

Never the less if you can't use a trans brake can you use a line lock and just get better front brakes? You won't need as much stall if the wheels are spinning, of course you'll have to leave a little earlier.


That's just a ****** question. I don't know what your solution would be.

 

I really don't understand the concept of using a line lock (or dual line locks) to stage a car with an automatic when you use can use both sets of brakes with brake pedal. The only advantage I can see is being able to tie a delay box into the line lock (here we go again) or MAYBE a little advantage in the time it takes to release the brakes.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard that drum brakes hold better on the line than disc because they are self energizing. I'm gonna try a set on my 55 before I go to disc.
Larry T

 

Larry you are absolutely right about the brakes. Unless you go to a multi piston super high zoot caliper you will always hold better with a drum on the line.

Before the day of the control box when Pro Stock first started we used a line lock and let the rear tires spin didn't need as much stall on the converter. Then we went to a 4 gear and started winning. Well after a little trial and error to get it all worked out.

 

all i know is with just the back drums it was all i could do to slow it down when i was pulling it off the trailer.i was also affraid of brake fade at the top end so i went with disks.and now when i do a burnout i can stop sooner and not have to backup as much to get staged.

 

I've read that twice and that's making no sense. You should be "blowing it out" after the burn out, before you break the pre-stage. If your car can't idle for 10 seconds while you stage without loading up, you need to fix the tune.
You should be able to creep up into stage at idle rpm, When you hit the stage light and press the t-brake ****on that car shouldn't roll anywhere, forward or backwards.
You should have that T-Brake ****on wired into your 7AL with a starting line chip, first yellow comes down, you mat it, Starting line chip controls RPM, let go of the ****on on the yellow you let go of and off you go.

My car doesn't have a brake, but I learned from Frank Hawley and have a lot of friends who race the electronic cl***es. No offense or bashing intended, but I think you are doing something wrong.