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12 bolt truck help... gov lock

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lowdown and dirty, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. lowdown and dirty
    Joined: Dec 6, 2009
    Posts: 41

    lowdown and dirty
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    ok fellas,
    im thinkin of swapping my 3.73 gear for a 3.08.. also thinkin of throwing in a gov lock... yes ive read all the bad shit about them.. here's my combo.

    65 c-10
    mild 4bolt 350.. +/- 300 hp
    close ratio saginaw 4speed. not sure of the gears but has a real low 1st.
    12 bolt truck rear

    questions.
    -is the gov lock a bad idea?
    -how can i tell between a 3 series and 4 series gov lock?
    -does anyone know for sure the gear cut off between 3 and 4 series carriers... ive read that 3.73 can be either 3 or 4 series????

    thanks in advance
     
  2. lowdown and dirty
    Joined: Dec 6, 2009
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    lowdown and dirty
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  3. enginebloch
    Joined: Feb 23, 2006
    Posts: 114

    enginebloch
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    from norfolk va

    Hold off on the gov loc, I have found the superior 12b truck clutch type posi units under some 4x4 trucks and blazers.

    When that gov loc engages it is very violent- imagine one side of the rotating assembly of the axle moving 200rpm faster than the other (20lbs tire + 20lbs rim + 20 lbs of axle shaft and brake drum) vs the inertia of the same assembly at a complete stop. The shock load will either granade the gov loc or snap the crappy c clip axle shaft. I have seen the aftermath and it usually includes a new gearset and carrier as well as body work for when the axle falls out.

    I would just search for a complete axle or a mated gear and carrier as most of them were 2.73s or 3.08s already.
     
  4. xsquiden
    Joined: Jul 20, 2009
    Posts: 112

    xsquiden
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    We got a complete rear posi 3.73 truck 12 bolt that was in good shape from a salvage yard here for $250 all we had to do was call then drive to pick it up. That might be a solution.
    later
    mike
     
  5. lowdown and dirty
    Joined: Dec 6, 2009
    Posts: 41

    lowdown and dirty
    Member

    i have two 12 bolts.. one with a 3 series one with a 4. im gonna rebuild one either way, because i want to be able to count on it 100%. ill probably look for a better posi. what i really need to know is the gear cut off between 3 and 4 series carriers???
     
  6. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
    Posts: 6,326

    TagMan
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    I have the "granny" 4-speed (1st gear is 6.08:1) in my '63 C10 with the 3.73 rear ratio. Instead of changing the rear end, I located a NPG A833 3-speed w/ OD transmission that was used on Chevy trucks (1972-1978, as I recall). First gear is around 3.09:1 and OD is around 0.7:1. I haven't had a chance to install the transmission due to recovering from a long term illness, but I hope to get it in this summer.

    There were two versions of that transmission used by Chevy: One had the MOPAR bolt pattern and the other had the SBC pattern. If you find the MOPAR one, make sure you get the bell housing with it.
     

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