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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Michael_e, Apr 1, 2010.


  1. Jimmy, I like where you're going with this... any chance that you'll make a few extras :D???
     
  2. kenagain
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
    Posts: 820

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    from so cal

    I have used ATF in older model transmissions makes the syncros work better and no problems oiling wise either
     
  3. 21stud
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 336

    21stud
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    from California

    First one must determine why the manufacture wanted to run the type, and weight of oil in the trans. What type of driving conditions? Going around the block.? Hill climbs? Touring? Then you can make an informative decision.
     
  4. I had a conversation with Joe Mac regarding the proper weight of lubricant in the early Ford V8 boxes and he recommended 90w but if you had leaks from the shafts to try 140w before you went to the trouble of "O" ringing them. I wish I had a nickel for every early Ford Trans or rear end that he rebuilt over the years. I use 90W in my car and it is used for hillclimbs and drags.
     
  5. crazydaddyo,

    Would you be willing to add the "1928 chevy 4cyl motor" thread to the attachments at the beginning of the monthly banger threads?
     
  6. HotrodVon
    Joined: Mar 12, 2001
    Posts: 292

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    I O-ring EVERY early trans I use. I hate leaks!

    Keven
     
  7. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,374

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    Sure Mac,

    Done.

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  8. You da MAN- Thanks!...

    NOW if you would just slip one of those Winfield S's you got a couple months ago into a priority mail box, my address is :D
     
  9. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    I might have an extra.....What have you for trade?

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  10. doublehipness
    Joined: Nov 27, 2008
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    Can i please get some advice, i need to know what adaptor/bellhousing is required when putting a '39 trans behind a b model motor ?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
  11. kenagain
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
    Posts: 820

    kenagain
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    from so cal

    I made one for my 23 olds and I tried it on my 28 chev head but the seating surface was not even and it used a center bolt instead of 1 on each end your head looks different than the one I had
     
  12. 62pan
    Joined: Jun 8, 2008
    Posts: 909

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    If your going to use a B motor then why not use the B trans case and put your 39 gears in it. Then you will not need any adaptors.
     
  13. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
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    DITTO......Use the 39 ge****t and shifter with cover and you're in business
     
  14. If you don't have a "B" trans you can buy an adapter that will bolt up to the "A" flywheel housing that will adapt the V8 trans. The adapters are usually sold with the brackets you would need for clutch and brake pedals . To use the "A" flywheel housing will require you to modify the "B" pan by cutting off the portion that covers the flywheel or you can modify an "A" pan. The "A" pan requires more modification, clearance for the rods and the larger "B" rear pan oil to main seal or gasket.
     
  15. andyg
    Joined: Aug 10, 2007
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    Having just put a 21 stud with a 39 box in my previously banger powered car I can say that I wouldn't go through the trouble to have the later ford gears. However if I were building a new box I would use the later gears in my banger case. The gear spacing is slightly better but other than that I honestly can't tell too much of a difference. My 2 cents!
     
  16. TV
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    I'm very surprised, I ran my 32-5 wnd. Banger car with the B trans then switched to 39 gears with a 29 tooth cluster and fell in love with it. Granted I was running 750-16" tires and the new cluster really made a difference, but I like the 39 gear set though.--TV
     
  17. Crazydaddyo- did you get me PM?

    Thanks again, Bill
     
  18. 21stud
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
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    from California

    Specality Ford Parts in Rosemead, CA 1-626-288-2121 or 626-288-3131 .They have adaptors to put a V8 trans behind a banger. They also have the pedal mounts, and wishbone mounts. If you are going to run a B trans then the pedal , and wishbone mounts are different. Talk to Jim Gordon.
     
  19. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    Bill,

    Yes, I did. I have been preoccupied with a home improvement project and haven't had time to reply to my PMs.

    I did send a reply tonight.

    Dan

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  20. Last weekend here in New Zealand we had the Nostalgia Drags that features a Four Banger Cl*** - this year four cars turned up - here is a couple of them. The yellow closed cab is Graeme McNeill's with a Riley OHV on it - he has Mac's Speed Equipment.
    The black and red roadster pick up was built by Kirstin, she is super die hard and it was so good to see her having fun with it!
     

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  21. The week before the Nostalgia Drags was the Scroungers Hot Rod Blow Out car show.
    Graeme's yellow closed cab
    A young guys roadster pick up
    Kirstin's red/black roadster pick up
    And to the rh side of the dragster line up - my dragster that me and my dad are doing with a blown & injected Model A engine
     

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  22. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    If you didn't see it else where here are some pictures of my long awaited new crank and one rod and piston for my Banger of the non-Ford type.
     

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  23. VERY nice Rich!

    There was a Fast Four engine and trans on Espay in FL that went CHEAP the other day- looked like it came out of a nice restoration... too bad I was broke!

    Hey, if you get a chance, take a look on the Early Chevrolet 4 thread- would love to get your input. Here's the link:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=463465
     
  24. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,661

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    Here you go:
    Parts for SALE: 1932 Ford ****** - will need to be cleaned up, came mounted to a Model B engine $150 plus shipping.
    Brett <>
    MI USA - Wednesday, April 14, 2010 at 20:19:28 (EDT)
     
  25. What compression ratio do you plan on? How many head bolts/studs does the engine use? Have you had trouble holding compression in your earlier engines? Thanks.
     
  26. Artiki
    Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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    from Brum...

    Very cool. What times were you guys (& gal!) running?
     
  27. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    14 studs all togeather. But the 4 outboard of the old valve location (now pushrod holes) don't really do much. So it's really 10 studs holding compression. Same as my Plymouth when it was OHV. On both engines the compression is about 9 1/4 to one. Both use home made solid copper head gaskets. On the Plymouth I ended up removing the copper gasket from about 1/4 inch past the studs and just using RTV to seal the pushrod holes from leaking oil. Increased the clamping force around the combustion chamber. After that it worked fine. the Dodge has so much iron in it I hope for a good seal.
     
  28. ejay$
    Joined: Mar 13, 2007
    Posts: 213

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    Took the car out the other day and figured I'd snap some pictures with the nice weather...
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  29. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    Finally replacement parts to replace those stolen have arrived from the states thanks to Dan four banger and brother inlaw Steve Peters in Sacramento and paul for hand carrying the stuff back new behive oil filter finned sideplate and ruthford sump plus head gaskets pushrod for the Rutherford overhead ect what a long drawn out process it has been sourceing obtaining and importing these parts just because some light fingered jonny took my stuff which was of no use to him. I will still need another set of Stewart gauges and mag but i may be able to obtain these later but will probably have to remake the front drive oil pump myself dont think i will find another one the joys of building a banger motor in New Zealand and all because i let my address be known when organising a banger event!!!
     
  30. The yellow closed cab runs 17.4 and then the others ran 18 to 24 seconds
     

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